Dave, it's Dan. To be completely honest, I have tried to stay as far away from this situation as possible. I didn't want to be in the middle because I think of you as a friend and we both know that I think of Eliza as a sister. Up until this point I have kept my opinion quiet, not completely silent, as some people may have heard it. But for the most part, it has been hushed. But I have something to say now. So I'm going to say it, at the risk of being pulled into the fray. Let it go. Let her go. Anyone with two eyes in their head can see that you're both hurting in this situation. I understand that as well as anyone else. I didn't come into this situation "about anchorsplash time." So I think that my opinion should be something of value. I'm not going to bark at you and not let you give a response. You have every right to respond to me in any way you like to. But before you do, I would suggest this: DON'T respond to me, I'm not the one hurting. I'm not the one that is crying. If you care about her as much as you say
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Thanks for the input, Dan. It's good to actually hear from you again. And it's good to know Eliza has a friend that doesn't hate me. Your input is duely noted and I will hold it highly; your opinion is of mass.
Told you earlierddrfreakinApril 22 2005, 04:44:44 UTC
If you want to talk to me again, the first words that come out of your mouth should be "Dave, I'm listening". Now I've told you twice. Proof that you truly weren't listening.
Re: Told you earlierddrfreakinApril 22 2005, 05:35:06 UTC
It says right up there that I inturrupted Orchestra rehearsal to ask you to call me so we can talk through things. You didn't then. I called you. You didn't answer.
Why do you only want to resolve it now that I've starting telling my side of the tale?
This is not my fight, and I don't know why I'm acknowledging the drama to post this.sveebApril 22 2005, 06:13:28 UTC
Why is it, Jordan, that you seem to find yourself in situations like this? I know that you and I had strained relations for a LONG time, but we seem to be better now. I think a large part of that "betterness" is due to me not being as concerned about what people at Albion think and trying my hardest to ignore the rumor mill. I hate to see good relations between brothers strained like this, and to think that it's from a lack of communication makes me sad. Regardless of who is in the right and who is in the wrong, it sounds like the issue is that there is a communication breakdown, and I am tempted from experience to believe that the breakdown is occurring on your side, Jordan (I say that because I have never had trouble speaking openly and clearly with Dave, even on the toughest of subjects, and I have -as previously stated- had strained relations in the past with you as a result of shoddy communication
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Re: This is not my fight, and I don't know why I'm acknowledging the drama to post this.redheadangelApril 22 2005, 12:56:15 UTC
I second that - shit, who'd think I'd agree with Stephen on anything now?! :-D Anyway, both of you, lose a little macho-ness and listen to each other - maybe face to face? You guys are both great guys - guys I still count as friends even though we don't talk much anymore - and you are brothers, as Stephen said. Brothers should listen and try to work it out before throwing LJ punches and IM away message punches. Good luck - I can legally mediate you if you want! :)
Re: This is not my fight, and I don't know why I'm acknowledging the drama to post this.babyred223April 24 2005, 20:52:51 UTC
haha look at all of us non-Albion residents commenting!!!
I just wanted to comment on your comment, Linnie, to let Dave know that at least one person(me) recognizes that he did approach Jordan face to face and has been trying horribly hard to be heard and communicate all along.
I don't know the whole situation, there's no way that I could, but I'd just like to make it publicly known that Dave, you always impress me with how level-headed and reasonable you are, so I hope that this craziness doesn't get you down for long!
Down with Drama....hopesanddreams2April 22 2005, 08:10:53 UTC
Dave I love you but let it go.
Jordan I love you but let it go.
You're brothers, something more important than me. I did not mean to get between anyone. I love you both very much. Dave you are now and will always be one of my best friends who I can tell anything to and you hold a special place in my heart. Jordan you have been my anchor (excuse the pun) during hard times and are kind and caring. Please don't fight. I want you both to listen to eachother. Stop being angry and just listen to eachother.
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to get you over this, i'll talk to you... after that, who knows...
and for the record, all comments are blocked on that post... several others have commented to find their comments gone aswell...
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Why do you only want to resolve it now that I've starting telling my side of the tale?
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You guys are both great guys - guys I still count as friends even though we don't talk much anymore - and you are brothers, as Stephen said. Brothers should listen and try to work it out before throwing LJ punches and IM away message punches.
Good luck - I can legally mediate you if you want! :)
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I just wanted to comment on your comment, Linnie, to let Dave know that at least one person(me) recognizes that he did approach Jordan face to face and has been trying horribly hard to be heard and communicate all along.
I don't know the whole situation, there's no way that I could, but I'd just like to make it publicly known that Dave, you always impress me with how level-headed and reasonable you are, so I hope that this craziness doesn't get you down for long!
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Jordan I love you but let it go.
You're brothers, something more important than me. I did not mean to get between anyone. I love you both very much. Dave you are now and will always be one of my best friends who I can tell anything to and you hold a special place in my heart. Jordan you have been my anchor (excuse the pun) during hard times and are kind and caring. Please don't fight. I want you both to listen to eachother. Stop being angry and just listen to eachother.
I just want everything to be better.
Hugs and Kisses,
Eliza
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Stop, Collaborate and Listen.
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