Comments | ddrgirldotcom: On the Tookie thing...

ddrgirldotcom

On the Tookie thing...

Dec 14, 2005 11:12

Since no one else has mentioned it on my lj so far, I'll be the one. Teh govenator just solidified proof of his nazi roots by not granting clemency to Williams. Just goes to show, anytime a black man starts to write, or do anything that might possibly help other young black and urban people caught up in the terrible life that continues to fuel the ( Read more... )

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the_sweet December 14 2005, 20:28:23 UTC

I was just wondering about this: This is what makes me love living in a so-called Christian nation where our country can kill innocents without facing reprecussion. Do you think that Tookie was innocent?

ddrgirldotcom December 14 2005, 21:48:42 UTC

The innocent comment was actually geared more toward the people we kill around the world everyday when we decide to drop bombs on people.

sleepherealone December 14 2005, 21:12:01 UTC

Yes, it's a good thing he tried to make black kids realize they shouldn't join gangs. But isn't that a little hypocritical, if he was organized in starting the Crips? Even though he ended up wanting to stop gang violence and keep kids from joining them, that doesn't take away what he did before. He also attacked a lot of inmates and officers in prison, even if I'm not sure how relevant that is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tookie_williams

I'll echo the_sweet Do you think he was innocent?

ddrgirldotcom December 14 2005, 22:11:33 UTC

Everyone is hypocritical at some point in their life. What needs to be looked at closely is the nature of the hipocrisy. If I beat my children while they are growing up, then they become adults and they decide to beat their children, if I say, "hey, that's wrong", I am a hipocrit. The question is however, is my hipocrisy validated? Am I correcting a wrong ( ... )

sleepherealone December 15 2005, 02:53:12 UTC

Interesting, the only thing I've heard about Arnold and Hitler is that he admired how Hitler was able to gain so many followers. That doesn't sound like Hitler's ideas and attacks were something he wanted to mdoel.

Personally, I don't think it's about Tookie being black, but that's just me. :/ I don't put race into factors of crime and blame.

ddrgirldotcom December 15 2005, 04:40:10 UTC

Most people arn't factoring race into the issue, which is a large problem. People refuse to recognize the good he has done because it doesn't effect the majority of America, aka whites. It effects mostly young black men and women who are experiencing a life of gang violence. This is where his words have effect and make a difference, and thats why it is important to the black community, and urban ghetto community that his message not be silenced. This is no longer an issue of crime and blame because he's been convicted of a crime, he is taking the blame, he was serving his sentence(while doing this, helping to change other people), but now he is dead. The important question was... did he need to be killed? What sort of justice were we handing out when we killed him?

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sleepherealone December 14 2005, 21:12:45 UTC

Also, Nazi roots?

I remain unshocked.... gtonizuka December 14 2005, 21:28:25 UTC

Oh, you can rest assured that I posted something on my other journal that I wouldn't be identified as "FOMG ANGRI BLACK MAN WAR AGAINST TEH RIGHT WING FOMG FOMG !!!!111!1!!!!", but not on LJ....no, LJ without cuts is reserved for milquetoast, nice, kind, friendly, happy words without a hint of venom because some people, y'know, might AGREE with me.......

(end rant on morons)

Back to some reality....I feel that while Tookie didn't have the right to be released(and I only say that because there's no proof of innocence), he didn't have to be executed, and it only goes to show that Schwartzanegger is full of shit when he says he's "morally liberal, and fiscally conservative". It costs an exorbiant amount of cash to execute someone, and he certainly could have let him live out his sentence behind bars and continue to counsel the community. It's funny...prison rehabs this guy, so they kill him. Way to go, Schwartzanegger......your judgement on this one was about as ignorant as the plot in Kindergarten Cop.

Re: I remain unshocked.... gtonizuka December 14 2005, 21:35:45 UTC

One more note...interesting article on our present day prison system at this site. Ask me how shocked I am at the setup.....

gorm10 December 29 2005, 06:56:21 UTC

(off of this topic)

CONGRATULATIONS, AYORI!!!! :)

ddrgirldotcom January 15 2006, 19:39:53 UTC

thanks :) i'm finally back online too!