"All was Well"

Feb 16, 2008 16:38



I consider that, in years to come, this particular phrase will be discussed and dissected by people more educated than I, and will (if Potterfiction stays as popular) be considered to be one of the greatest literary lies ever. For me it ranks along with "All animals are created equal" and will - just as that phrase was shown to be a nonsense -lose ( Read more... )

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berseker February 16 2008, 21:57:17 UTC
Ok, lemme think. Now it’s kinda hard to pin one single reason (or two, or three, of four...) why All is Not Well, especially after all the rec-ed fics I’ve been reading (Golden Ages, is amazing!), but I’ll try to pick the two things that annoyed me the most ( ... )

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seductivedark February 16 2008, 23:53:59 UTC
...and the memory thing was full of good intentions...

An old saying has it that "The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions." People mean well, people think that they should be in control of others, people believe they need to Take Up the White Man's Burden (Kipling), that they need to parent the know-nothing children of the world, that they alone have the answers and so must rule For The Greater Good, but all this does is lead the people who believe this down their own road to Hell, and in the case of people who actually do get to rule over others, then dragging those innocents they rule, along.

Sometimes I wonder why old sayings aren't taught more. There are a lot of truths in them.

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lovefromgirl February 16 2008, 22:18:44 UTC
Part of me wonders whether JK Rowling actually wrote a scathing commentary on modern society. Then the rest of me gangs up and beats that part to a pulp.

Agreed all 'round.

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guardians_song February 16 2008, 22:37:24 UTC
Methinks she's quite good friends with modern society, particularly nowadays. In the old days, pre-... HBP, maybe?... she WAS writing a world where she intended change at the end. Then, the moolah rolled in, and... :P HAIL TO THE (WO)MAN! :D *gags*

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berseker February 16 2008, 23:34:00 UTC
Sadly, I think the rest of you is right. Even if a little bit violent. ;)

She doesn’t sounds like she *knows* what she just did. I think she truly believes that Lily was a saint, Dumbledore was well-meaning, Harry is selfless and the twins are funny. And if she doesn’t, than she really, trully, needs an editor. A good author knows how to show s/he doesn’t agree with the main character without ever saying so - you know, a word here, a phrase by another person there, and the reader realizes that the main POV is flawed. I never got that vibe in her books, except once or twice in the first books back when Snape was still Snape.

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dracasadiablo February 17 2008, 01:45:21 UTC
"She doesn’t sounds like she *knows* what she just did. I think she truly believes that Lily was a saint, Dumbledore was well-meaning, Harry is selfless and the twins are funny. And if she doesn’t, than she really, trully, needs an editor."
If you ask me, (and I'm truly sorry if I offend anyone) she really, truly, needs therapy and/or counseling .If she believes in "All was Well", Lily/saint, Dumbledore/God, and so on she's having some serious issues. Issues with human values, ethics, morals ...
~sighs~
Well, with just about everything.

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gehayi February 16 2008, 23:05:05 UTC
You don't really need to recommend it here. It's already up on the rec list.

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gehayi February 16 2008, 23:21:00 UTC
Well, you HAVE recced the Sacrifices arc in a number of sporkings besides this one. And this is really a discussion of what's NOT well in the canonical wizarding world--authorial assertions to the contrary--and what needed to be done, in canon, to fix it.

So yes, please delete it.

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guardians_song February 16 2008, 23:05:59 UTC
"For all his flaws - and there are so many - that’s my biggest issue. When Harry fights Voldemort for the last time, you don’t feel that he earned the victory, that he really tried to better himself and prepare for this moment. He didn’t study new spells, look for weak points, or come up with a plan; it was all based on luck and a technicality that Rowling through in at the last moment - the issue of wand ownership and how she could make it fit her main character. Throughout the series, more so in the last four books, you can feel Rowling’s heavy twisting events to make him follow the plot and come out alive, to the point where in Deathly Hallows she makes Hermione into a walking plot device."

I swear by my theory that Harry's magic is as broken as TMR's and Ariana's, in its own way, and it fed off his soul and power to make him luckier. It only really kicked in during GoF, but the strain made him ANGSTY in OOTP (Voldemort? Hah!), and as for HBP and DH... it just fed off him until there was only a shell. A VERY LUCKY shell...

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dracasadiablo February 17 2008, 01:58:09 UTC
"Rowling wants us to believe that he learned something deep and profound during his journey"
Yes he did. He learned something important. And that is: If you go on camping trip from hell take your house elf with you. You will need him to bring you sandwiches when Hermione's cooking turns bad.

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berseker February 16 2008, 23:26:16 UTC
More Stuff That I Hate ( ... )

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dracasadiablo February 17 2008, 02:09:31 UTC
"It wasn’t a war, it was a battle to take a boarding school, and the outcome if it wouldn’t change the ways of the wizards one bit (well, except for the muggle-borns. I still say the rest didn’t even realize that Voldemort was controlling the ministry)."
My pet theory is that most wizards live on dark side of the moon. Because of this, they don't have slightest contact with reality. And no real clue what's going on. Only that can explain why "status quo" never changes.

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solar_type_star February 17 2008, 14:31:55 UTC
(have anyone here read Asteriz? You know how they always finish with a banquet? That was what I was expecting).

Who would be the bard hanging from the tree? :D Percy, maybe?

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dementedsiren February 17 2008, 23:52:42 UTC
You know, reading your comment (particularly the bit on "battle to take a boarding school") made me think...

What if the war really wasn't that big of a deal to the rest of the wizarding world? We see it through Harry et al's eyes - and they were students at that boarding school, or involved with the Order. What about all the other "regular" wizards/witches. We know the ministry actively tried to surpress the fact that anything was wrong - including when Voldemort was pulling the strings. What if it just never dawned on anyone that something truly serious was happening ( ... )

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