Shilling Garrosh? Say It Ain't So!

Sep 13, 2011 01:09

Once more, Deathy chose to expose himself to the latest... "novel"... involving WoW. Yet again, it's only an excerpt, but yet again, it made Deathy rage.

"The new warchief Garrosh had commanded that this venture be completed, regardless of the cost in seeing it done. Briln and the others here had not questioned that cost, either, for all would have ( Read more... )

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aj_hyena September 13 2011, 06:39:18 UTC
Despite his ability, I think Garrosh would eat Varok alive. I want to say we need Thrall to return, but he's done, he had his time. The only way this is going to end is with a genocidal victory on one side or the other.

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deathy_the_sock September 13 2011, 22:55:57 UTC
Deathy misses Thrall. Sure he had some issues toward the end of Lich King and all through Cata, but at least Thrall was trying to be sensible and sane.

Garrosh is "RAAAAR KILL EVERYTHING NON-HORDE!" and it really starts to grate.

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sodzilla September 13 2011, 10:42:38 UTC
Well, I guess going "he's awesome, best ever" when you mean "he makes the decisions I'd have made if I'd been in his shoes" is an orcish as well as a human trait? There are, after all, people who still insist GWB was a great president.

I believe Garrosh IS popular with that loud minority of orcs who think being theoretically able to win a war means there is no reason not to fight one, and I believe orcs as a society are very prone to inflate the deeds of their heroes. I also believe, speaking of Saurfang, that he did the world no good in the long run by covering for Garrosh's blunders in Borean Tundra and telling characters to keep shtum about it.

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deathy_the_sock September 13 2011, 22:57:29 UTC
You are probably right about Saurfang telling us to keep mum.

But at least he was trying to make Garrosh into a better leader, however poorly that ended. Garrosh as he is now, though... does he even have advisors? Or does he just go "do what I say and don't object or I have you killed" like he pulled on Vol'jin?

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sodzilla September 14 2011, 01:12:05 UTC
I don't know! In The Shattering he seemed to at least sort of listen to Eitrigg, but in Cata Eitrigg goes off to the Burning Steppes to stop a Blackrock invasion of Stormwind. I can't see Garrosh approving of that, and I suspect Eitrigg would at the very least get a cold welcome if/when he returns to Orgrimmar.

I do have some hopes that Zaela will challenge him to a duel and take over the Horde curb him a bit, or at least be a voice he WILL listen to.

Or, you know, that Deathwing will come along and eat him.

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deathy_the_sock September 14 2011, 02:23:20 UTC
Oooh! Oooh! Deathy votes for Deathwing! Deathy votes for Deathwing!

Think dear old Neth could be persuaded to take out Varian too?

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winters_queen September 13 2011, 12:39:49 UTC
Meanwhile you have Vol'jin who thinks Garrosh is so not the right leader for the orcs but staying because Horde Pride and all. The Taurens are still on iffy ground because of the death of their leaders at his hands and there is a Garrosh/Sylvanas throw down coming because of her use of the Scourge.

I don't know if there is any Blood Elf thoughts about Garrosh.

Something is going to implode at some point.

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sodzilla September 13 2011, 14:41:27 UTC
I suspect there are no blood elf thoughts about Garrosh. They saw Thrall as an ally of convenience, mostly; they're probably starting to see Garrosh as an ally of INconvenience, given that all he does is diss them and drag them into fights.

If not for the fact that Blizzard need the factions to stick together, I imagine the blood elves would secede and try to go it alone, or maybe even approach the Alliance once again. It's not like Garrosh has the armies to spare to go invade Quel'Thalas as punishment.

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deathy_the_sock September 13 2011, 22:59:07 UTC
A few belves are probably going "oh god now what does he want from us" every time they get orders. Deathy knows he would be.

Given how the humans (Hi, Garathos!) treated the High Elves, they'd probably prefer to go it alone, with at least friendly treatment to the Forsaken - they did offer to help while the rest of the Horde sat back, /pointed and /laughed - but that'd likely be simply "preferential trade treatment" and little else.

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nagaina_ryuuoh September 13 2011, 16:42:02 UTC
If it were only this one throwaway orc it'd be one thing.

But the GARROSH IS AWESOME festivus has been in full swing since The Shattering, where, for some reason, the vast bulk of the Forsaken and blood elf populations of Orgrimmar decided to fanboy him at his duel with Cairne, despite the fact that he holds everything non-orcish about the current Horde in physically palpable contempt.

We have officially crossed into Garrosh's towering, completely nonsensical popularity across all strata of Horde society being a codifier for Informed Attributes.

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deathy_the_sock September 13 2011, 23:00:37 UTC
Ugh. Deathy didn't like Garrosh in Northrend. He absolutely hated him when he became Warchief. Deathy started tolerating him after Stonetalon - "You. Are. Dismissed!" was pretty nifty, even if the poor Tauren lost both his son and wife - but the sudden extra push of "Garrosh is awesome you must love him" being shoved down Deathy's throat makes him want to hurl.

All over Garrosh.

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the__ivorytower September 13 2011, 19:02:58 UTC
But, Garrosh is a tactical genius, don't you know! Despite the fact that at multiple times he forgets himself AND can't figure out how to fight enemies he's been dealing with for over a year.

Poor Varok. I suspect losing his son took a lot from him.

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deathy_the_sock September 13 2011, 22:54:42 UTC
What Deathy would like to see is a few lines and an action from Saurfang.

"Garrosh, you're like the other son I never had." *Backhands. "So sit down, shut up, listen, and you might learn something."

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the__ivorytower September 13 2011, 22:56:57 UTC
Heheh. I like it.

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