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luckyn02 in debate_religion

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Jun 20, 2009 15:07

Hello there! :)

A meme has been going around my Flist these last few days/week from Livejournal's Writer's Block: Conversion Rate "Have you ever considered converting to another religion?Which has got me to into an introspective mood than I normally am when it comes to belief systems ( Read more... )

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s1d3r3us June 20 2009, 17:17:21 UTC

Thank you for sharing! It's been quite a long while since anyone has posted in this community, so it's nice to see fresh posts and new people that are interested ( ... )

luckyn02 June 20 2009, 19:21:45 UTC

Thank you for your reply! :)

However, I'm also sad for you because it sounds as if you didn't have any real strong leadership or role model when it came to faith. Having a role model for a faith helps so very much in understanding the faith system, but moreso in understanding faith itself.I'm not sure what to make of this statement :) are you saying that everybody should have some form of 'role model' for 'Faiths'? I grew up in an academic household and whilst my extended family identified with various belief systems, my nuclear family didn't. I've always believed that it's not even necessary to have a particular 'role model' for any faith/lack thereof, and that understanding the 'nature of faith' is entirely possible without one. It's all very subjective isn't it? (er... I hope that made sense? I'm sorry, English can difficult for me when it comes to articulating ( ... )

bagelwhore June 21 2009, 04:40:57 UTC

just wanted to say how much i tend to agree with your stance on organized religion
it was great to read some shared thoughts written out in such a way ^-^

luckyn02 June 21 2009, 10:23:42 UTC

Thanky muchly! :) english isn't my first language, and so though I've been using it for the majority of my life, I still stumble on occasion when it comes to articulating myself. I'm glad I made sense. ^_^

--I love talking about this sort of thing, it's so interesting isn't it? if I wasn't so set on maths and SLT I' have gone into Anthropology, as human behaviour(be it collective or singular), on all different levels fascinate me.

If you don't mind me asking specifics? --so, as I understand we have similar ideas on organised religion, but what of belief systems? (one of my friends and I were discussing how the need to add 'lack thereof' is unnecessary, in this case, as 'lack of belief' is still 'a' 'belief'.. y/n?) --I'm interested to know! :)

thanks for taking the time to reply! xD

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mythicalmenace June 22 2009, 02:02:16 UTC

After being here for a while, I'm not really sure what the point of all the discussion on here is. We really should just be preaching to our own choirs (people who think as we do), because it's practically pointless to debate with other people convinced of their own beliefs. I've had many an argument with s1d3r3us (among others) and it really hasn't changed either of our perspectives. You will find that you've typed a lengthy response only to realize it will fall upon deaf ears (or blind eyes). To each their own, and we should just agree to disagree.

luckyn02 June 22 2009, 07:59:46 UTC

I guess when I initially posted this, it was to see what others thought on organised religion, and how/if they related to belief systems, the the reason behind it. :)

You're right though, it can be very circular, but I guess it's still interesting to hear it from another's perspective, y'know?

Does hashing this all out and then agreeing to disagree negate from the entire point of the discussion in the first place? I don't know. I'd like to think that just the fact that we had a discussion, in a civil, respectful manner, --in the first place makes a difference anyways, but I know I'm a huge whooping idealist, and so this may be wishful thinking. I'd like to think it does, and that we do learn and take away something from this. ^_^ if nothing, it helps flex those logical, analytical skills once in a while. (though of course, this is only if the subject is approached academically, otherwise objectivity is difficult to be maintained ( ... )

apologies for spammage! luckyn02 June 22 2009, 08:09:54 UTC

p.s. I should also add that I'm a sometimes terribly contrary creature, and having someone to have a spirited discussion with (within reason) is entertaining/reason enough, as long as we're all being intelligent and respectful about it. :-)

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Re: excellent!! luckyn02 June 23 2009, 07:39:22 UTC

It has been a while since I have seen a respectful and well thought out debate between different systems of belief.

Hieeee! ^_^ I'm glad you think so. (er. that is if you are talking about this thread, and not in general? [I hope!] *g*)

Like mentioned to mythicalmenace, discussions like this help us flex our analytical skills if approached from an academic pov, if nothing else. :)

thanks for your two cents! ^_^ I agree that beliefs can be, and do changed... and as long there's no proselytising, and instead there's intellectual consideration involved, I don't think this is a bad thing.

I reckon they continue to evolve for a lot of us throughout our lives. As you can see, I'm fluid about the philosophies I identify with, (though am more Humanist and Theravadian skewed these days) and consider organised religion to be more of an 'institution' that's based on a common belief system, mired intangibly in it's culture, history and tradition.

'...but I think that I will stay out of the conversation for now.'That's absolutely fine. And ( ... )

Re: excellent!! luckyn02 June 23 2009, 07:41:02 UTC

p.s. apologies for typos, I'm still half-asleep. *sheepish look*