Ahhh. So poignant. What a lovely episode. Let the whiners whine. It's what they do. But I think slow, sweet, moody episodes like this are a perfect balance to the action-fast episodes and definitely a balance to the comedic ones.
As for Bobby. I, too, am unspoiled. I'd love to have him around. If for no other reason than Dean. I can't even think about him having to deal with Bobby dead.
I agree with you about the pacing. The show has always had episodes like this that feel softer, slower. I think looking back, those are the episodes we keep coming back to....material for stories, whatever...
Do you think they really killed Bobby? I'm just having a hard time believing they would do that, story-telling wise.
I agree with you on that, Sandy. I LOVED finding out more of Bobby's backstory, especially his relationship with the boys. Slow pacing is just fine with me if there's a lot of character exploration involved.
But I think a lot of viewers (particularly the younger ones?) have gotten so used to everything in life moving at a breakneck pace that they don't know how to take a breath and examine something slowly.
What scares me is that they pretty much follow the format of Joseph Campbell's Heroes Journey on the show and, within that format, there is always the loss of the mentor at some point.
I would so, so love to be wrong about that, though.
I think you're probably right and I'm in massive denial.
I would love anyone's interpretation of the very last moment of the episode though... why did they end it there if not to leave open Bobby's fate? It didn't have the definite closure of John's death.
why did they end it there if not to leave open Bobby's fate?
Just for the sake of the cliffhanger, I imagine.
I'm intrigued by Dean's visible ANGER in this episode. It might be the motivator he needs to fight back out of his depression and kick some Leviathan ass.
As much as I would hate to see Bobby go I feel like after 2 very Bobby focused eps it would almost be an anti climax if he was still alive. They put a lot of effort into giving us Bobby's backstory. I would be truly surprised if he's not dead. Of course, that doesn't mean we won't see him again. I'm be absolutely sure that we will.
The more I think about it the more I loved that ep! <3
I'm thinking that you're probably right. But how can that BE?????? I just can't imagine the show without Bobby. What a heartbreaker. I wanted him to the bitter (or sweet) end.
But Jared tweeted that he watched the show with Jensen with Kleenex, so I'm guessing it was meant to be just as moving as it was.
:-(
Five weeks is so long. (Do you think they'll bring back Sam's hell!hand even more? Looking to a Sam!girl for reassurance!)
I really hope he survives too...maybe it's delusional, maybe it even works better as far as dramatic tension goes but I just love the character (and as someone else pointed out Deans tragicness would probably reach some breaking point and create a dark hole of angstiness to drown everything else)
I cried and sobbed so muh at all the sad and bittersweet moments and at the theme of family and that bobby acknowledges that he adopted those two and oh god that moment at the end! I miss those little happy moments and I really felt with bobbys little smile (also Jared is right Jim really hit the acting in this episode out of the park it was gorgeous)
argh I'm incoherent I loved it, but it broke my heart in so many pieces I'll probably will be searching for it till after the hellatus ;__________;
I really do agree with everything you said - everything. I will say this episode just motivated me to get off my writer's block more than any I've watched for a while.
I am also spoiler-free. I think they left Bobby's fate deliberately vague. They may know the long-term plan, but they didn't reveal it to us yet. I'll be happy either way. If a beloved character has to die, give him/her a worthy send-off. And this was spectacular. Oh Bobby!
But I will miss, him, too. So if they do bring him out of his coma, I won't be annoyed. (To be honest, I would like to see a way for them to interact with Bobby even after he's gone 'beyond'. After all, if he can bind a reaper while he's in a coma, maybe he can be accessible in other ways that they've never encountered before. Without going the spirit-who-can't-move-on-and-turns-violent route.)
Like you, I do think/hope/pray the hell!hand ;D is a precursor of more to come.
I haven't read much meta on the ep yet (I'm traveling this week and barely got to see the episode) - but this short one by de_nugis was all kinds of awesome!
de_nugis is always so thoroughly awesome. I will check that out, thanks!
I have to agree and long for everything you said. Luckily, I have much to keep me busy over the next five weeks - otherwise, I'd probably drive myself crazy tallying the days. :-)
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As for Bobby. I, too, am unspoiled. I'd love to have him around. If for no other reason than Dean. I can't even think about him having to deal with Bobby dead.
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Do you think they really killed Bobby? I'm just having a hard time believing they would do that, story-telling wise.
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But I think a lot of viewers (particularly the younger ones?) have gotten so used to everything in life moving at a breakneck pace that they don't know how to take a breath and examine something slowly.
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I would so, so love to be wrong about that, though.
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I would love anyone's interpretation of the very last moment of the episode though... why did they end it there if not to leave open Bobby's fate? It didn't have the definite closure of John's death.
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*hugs*
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Just for the sake of the cliffhanger, I imagine.
I'm intrigued by Dean's visible ANGER in this episode. It might be the motivator he needs to fight back out of his depression and kick some Leviathan ass.
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As much as I would hate to see Bobby go I feel like after 2 very Bobby focused eps it would almost be an anti climax if he was still alive. They put a lot of effort into giving us Bobby's backstory. I would be truly surprised if he's not dead. Of course, that doesn't mean we won't see him again. I'm be absolutely sure that we will.
The more I think about it the more I loved that ep! <3
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But Jared tweeted that he watched the show with Jensen with Kleenex, so I'm guessing it was meant to be just as moving as it was.
:-(
Five weeks is so long. (Do you think they'll bring back Sam's hell!hand even more? Looking to a Sam!girl for reassurance!)
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I LOVED SAM'S HELL!HAND. That was one of my fav moments (more in my review on this. *g*)
But I really really hope we get more. I can't believe how lucky we were that we got that. \o/
5 weeks! ACK!!! /o\
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I cried and sobbed so muh at all the sad and bittersweet moments and at the theme of family and that bobby acknowledges that he adopted those two and oh god that moment at the end! I miss those little happy moments and I really felt with bobbys little smile (also Jared is right Jim really hit the acting in this episode out of the park it was gorgeous)
argh I'm incoherent I loved it, but it broke my heart in so many pieces I'll probably will be searching for it till after the hellatus ;__________;
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It really does feel like a death, that episode.
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I am also spoiler-free. I think they left Bobby's fate deliberately vague. They may know the long-term plan, but they didn't reveal it to us yet. I'll be happy either way. If a beloved character has to die, give him/her a worthy send-off. And this was spectacular. Oh Bobby!
But I will miss, him, too. So if they do bring him out of his coma, I won't be annoyed. (To be honest, I would like to see a way for them to interact with Bobby even after he's gone 'beyond'. After all, if he can bind a reaper while he's in a coma, maybe he can be accessible in other ways that they've never encountered before. Without going the spirit-who-can't-move-on-and-turns-violent route.)
Like you, I do think/hope/pray the hell!hand ;D is a precursor of more to come.
I haven't read much meta on the ep yet (I'm traveling this week and barely got to see the episode) - but this short one by de_nugis was all kinds of awesome!
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I have to agree and long for everything you said. Luckily, I have much to keep me busy over the next five weeks - otherwise, I'd probably drive myself crazy tallying the days. :-)
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