I don't have much to say... but I tend to agree. This was very eloquently put though, better than I could express it.
Another factor that goes along with this, to my mind anyway, is our day to day activities. Now, we work 8 hours a day(approx) to make money, which enables us to buy things from faceless salesmen and faceless companies.
A hundred years ago, someone living in Canada would probably spend their day, growing food, taking care of animals, chopping wood for fire, making repairs on their house... all things DIRECTLY NECESSARY for survival.
Now, we spend our days doing stuff that is mostly completely unnecessary for survival, as our means of making money, to provide for our survival.
This creates an abstracted view of what is NEEDED and what is WANTED. It also abstracts our appreciation of life, because we don't feel as much danger of losing it.
It could be argued that this abstraction causes a sense of unreality in people, which creates a myriad of psychological disorders.
Re: Post-Modern Emotion - ???bramthepaleMay 3 2004, 23:29:08 UTC
It would be an interesting study!
As far as a comparison would go... I think for a good example of pre-industrial mentality in modern people, you would have to look at communes, specifically naturalist, or dare I say it, hippie mentality ones. Those are mostly people who have fought against the shock and gone to a different lifestyle because of it.
Or now that I'm thinking, how about Mormons or the Amish? I know painfully little about them, but I would think that their lifestyles would be more directly related to immediate survival needs, without the disconnectedness.
We should get some cash together, buy some land, and try a commune up here :) Just for fun, lol.
Re: Post-Modern Emotion - ???deggialMay 4 2004, 08:06:40 UTC
It would be an interesting study!
"As far as a comparison would go... I think for a good example of pre-industrial mentality in modern people, you would have to look at communes, specifically naturalist, or dare I say it, hippie mentality ones. Those are mostly people who have fought against the shock and gone to a different lifestyle because of it."
Good idea but it's hard to test the "mentality" of the dead people.. can't really take a survey now.. to fing out their emotional state
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This is a good question. My impulse is to reply that we, the human race, have created out of our own consciousness this unimaginably dissociative experience of the World. In some way, it must be natural -- it must represent some kind of pattern interrupt for the mechanical process of natural selection by which we species evolve.
For me the answer is clear. The human race has created an evolutionary crisis. We will either adapt or die. Succesful adaptation requires dozens of things I probably could never imagine, but for certain, we have to start thinking about the repercussions of our actions -- all of us -- because now more than ever, the butterfly effect is in play.
No matter where the war is now, we all pull the trigger.
Will we make it? I have my doubts. But like I said, there's all those X factors out there too, the ones I've never considered.
Thanks for the comments! =)deggialMay 3 2004, 23:23:34 UTC
"This is a good question. My impulse is to reply that we, the human race, have created out of our own consciousness this unimaginably dissociative experience of the World. In some way, it must be natural -- it must represent some kind of pattern interrupt for the mechanical process of natural selection by which we species evolve
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Actually I find that the general population has a tendancy to disassociate itself from the hard times of others in other countries.A prime example is WW2 when Britain went to war with Germany three quarters of the world stayed neutral including the USA as they all felt it was not their problem. I beleave this is how we as a whole deal with the constant barrage of images on TV as its not happening to us it does not matter.Myself I beleave this lack of humanity is dangerous as it can and has effected how we will view the occurances as they happen in front of us.We as a whole have become desencitized to the hurts of others that occur around us.
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Another factor that goes along with this, to my mind anyway, is our day to day activities. Now, we work 8 hours a day(approx) to make money, which enables us to buy things from faceless salesmen and faceless companies.
A hundred years ago, someone living in Canada would probably spend their day, growing food, taking care of animals, chopping wood for fire, making repairs on their house... all things DIRECTLY NECESSARY for survival.
Now, we spend our days doing stuff that is mostly completely unnecessary for survival, as our means of making money, to provide for our survival.
This creates an abstracted view of what is NEEDED and what is WANTED. It also abstracts our appreciation of life, because we don't feel as much danger of losing it.
It could be argued that this abstraction causes a sense of unreality in people, which creates a myriad of psychological disorders.
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As far as a comparison would go... I think for a good example of pre-industrial mentality in modern people, you would have to look at communes, specifically naturalist, or dare I say it, hippie mentality ones. Those are mostly people who have fought against the shock and gone to a different lifestyle because of it.
Or now that I'm thinking, how about Mormons or the Amish? I know painfully little about them, but I would think that their lifestyles would be more directly related to immediate survival needs, without the disconnectedness.
We should get some cash together, buy some land, and try a commune up here :) Just for fun, lol.
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"As far as a comparison would go... I think for a good example of
pre-industrial mentality in modern people, you would have to look at
communes, specifically naturalist, or dare I say it, hippie mentality
ones. Those are mostly people who have fought against the shock and gone to a different lifestyle because of it."
Good idea but it's hard to test the "mentality" of the dead people.. can't really take a survey now.. to fing out their emotional state ( ... )
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For me the answer is clear. The human race has created an evolutionary crisis. We will either adapt or die. Succesful adaptation requires dozens of things I probably could never imagine, but for certain, we have to start thinking about the repercussions of our actions -- all of us -- because now more than ever, the butterfly effect is in play.
No matter where the war is now, we all pull the trigger.
Will we make it? I have my doubts. But like I said, there's all those X factors out there too, the ones I've never considered.
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I beleave this is how we as a whole deal with the constant barrage of images on TV as its not happening to us it does not matter.Myself I beleave this lack of humanity is dangerous as it can and has effected how we will view the occurances as they happen in front of us.We as a whole have become desencitized to the hurts of others that occur around us.
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