In which I have feels (again) about the Dumbledore-is-gay issue.

Sep 03, 2012 16:10

I'm going to copypasta from Tumblr here, because DW/LJ are semi-permanent, and Tumblr is the digital equivalent of newspaper - tomorrow it'll just be a wrapper for fish and chips. And I suspect this is going to come up again.

This is in reference to these two images:


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queerbaiting, queer invisibility, not as progressive as you think, dumbledore's great coming out, harry potter, meta

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gadge September 3 2012, 21:00:37 UTC
Pretty much exactly this. Of the two people you quote, if I'm going to choose which one I agree with (more, at all), it's the second one all the way.

Plus, http://gadge.livejournal.com/372463.html.

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gadge September 3 2012, 23:56:25 UTC
Again, you are exactly correct. In attempting brevity I skipped some nuance ( ... )

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cupiscent September 3 2012, 23:59:37 UTC
I was trying to comment on this on tumblr, because you know me and my rereblogging squeamishness, but missing-e wasn't behaving.

What I wanted to say was: Yes. I wish it didn't matter whether Dumbledore's sexuality was explicitly stated (because it could be anything) but the fact is that there has not been such representation in media that it could be anything, and in the absence of explicity, people just default straight. So while I really like the second view, and it's what I aspire to see be the case, you're right and it's not and it would have been really good if JKR could've made it clear in the books (without Making A Statement) that this respected and complicated and wise and HUMAN character was gay. (It would've been ever better, as you also point out, if some of Harry's schoolfriends had just, incidentally, been queer.)

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delirieuse September 6 2012, 06:47:54 UTC
Silly missing-e. *thwips it* (Although I've finally installed it at work and it is ~*AWESOME*~)

So while I really like the second view, and it's what I aspire to see be the case, you're right and it's not and it would have been really good if JKR could've made it clear in the books (without Making A Statement) that this respected and complicated and wise and HUMAN character was gay. (It would've been ever better, as you also point out, if some of Harry's schoolfriends had just, incidentally, been queer.)

Yes yes yes. Exactly what I was trying to say. Good. :D

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