Callout for the Cuntspeak Carnival!

[demonista]

PREAMBLE FOR THE CARNIVAL here

This carnival takes it name from Jane Caputi's honourific theory of cuntspeak, in Not for Sale and here. This has also been started in part because of the past Carnival Against Pornography and Prostitution. However, this carnival will also discuss positive sexuality.

I would like this carnival to be about things such as

Comments

[wolfychan]

Ooh, I've participated already!

Yeah, it's probably too mean, but I guess I'm annoyed that you deleted my polite comment without even a reply, it's awful small-minded of you. And you even hid some other posts of your own when people started disagreeing with you! It's like you're a COWARD or something! Don't you want to show how brave women/feminists are? Can't fight the fight if you're going to hide the fight!

(I'm female, if that helps.)

[demonista]

OK. Here is your insipid comment:

" I don't know about the rest of them, but I'm a member of the CSPC and it's a wonderfully safe, respectful, woman-positive place. Men end up on the bottom as well as as women, and the women who are on the bottom, want to be there. Nobody's getting their cunt tortured who isn't getting off on it."

No, you're being female doesn't help. I publish most comments, but clearly, assholes like you can't realise that.

[wolfychan]

Thanks for replying. Honestly; although I know I've gotten plenty snippy I really do appreciate it when people are willing to talk.

That said, I don't remotely understand why my comment is insipid?

[demonista]

because their website is the opposite of what your experience with it is--either their website is a crock or your impression of it is. ps, i saw your comment on renev's entry... not impressed.

[_allecto_]

Just a question: will the carnival be respectful of a political lesbian analysis of trans? Cause my mind is boggling with the idea that the word cunt could be used by a male born person. In my opinion, a cunt is something you are born with: it cannot be 'made'.

Also, I am uncomfortable with this because in the past you have called lesbian feminists transphobic just for calling a male born person he instead of she. Now, to me this is not a hateful act, it is just a lesbian feminist truth. Male-borns are he; female borns are she. I don't understand why this would be construed as hateful or phobic.

Anyway, I don't really know if I want to be involved in a cuntspeak carnival that involves male born people. Doesn't make sense to me that they should be included.

can one be a political Lesbian and be sexually involved with a man/men?And this question makes me uncomfortable. I don't feel like this should even be a question. If a woman is involved sexually with men then no, of course she isn't a political lesbian

[demonista]

The carnival will be open to various sides of trans, including lesbian feminist analyses. I think trans women and radical feminists both have a hard time actually *listening* to each other, and understanding what the other side is saying, so I think it's important to have a respectful place for both. It is something one is born with generally, but what about an intersex child who had her vulva constructed to be a "proper" one? Is she vulvaed? Or a woman who is genitally mutilated and has her vulva reconstructed--does she still not have one

[_allecto_]

I wasn't talking about intersexed or female genital mutilation. They are both very, very different that transsexualism. I don't agree that people born with dicks can have cunts. Therefore cuntspeaking would necessarily exclude persons born male.

but why should we, outside of patriarchy, class each other as such (eg genderneutral language)?

At present time there is no space outside of patriarchy. Gender neutrality does not exist, perhaps one day it will (I'm guessing many decades after I am dead), but for now it does not. Any attempt to erase he and she, merely erases she. I am not interested in being erased.

It was an open question, not a statement.I would respectfully argue that this is not a question that bisexual or straight women should be opening up. Perhaps if lesbian feminists wanted to talk about it amongst themselves, but I've never seen a lesbian feminist worry about this question. To me, it sounds as if straight and bisexual women want permission to identify as political lesbians whilst still engaging in

[demonista]

Not to start a confrontation, but do you think Heart is a lesbian feminist? As far as I know, her past partners have been male, as is her current one.