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[demonista]

this is old news on the blogosphere, but wtf is this bullshit analysis of dworkin?

http://sm-feminist.blogspot.com/2007/08/   dworkin-and-sexual-submission.html

i'm about a quarter through the comments *just finished now*, and am fucking pissed as hell. (aside from joan kelly--

Comments

[dans_la_reine]

:( I can't tell where your voice begins. Are you quoting people all through your piece or do your views come in somewhere?

[demonista]

yes! i don't talk outside of the first while and end, eg before "like these gems" and starting again at "and "kink-hatred. i'm not sure to be angry or..."

tremendous

[mikiencolor]

Unbelieveable. When they're not condemning her for hating men it's for loving men and hating women. But that's what scapegoats are for, aren´t they? They're always bad

Re: tremendous

[demonista]

I love your analysis. YAY! mikie ;)

I definitely see where you're coming from. Lately, I've found my classic sociological theory, taught by a marxist, more useful to my beliefs as a radfem, than my feminist theory class, which is all about postmodernism! wtf!

Re: tremendous

[fierceawakening]

I think you're assuming that a lot of us on that thread have read postmodernist theory, and I don't think most of us have. I personally know very little about it. Most of the people in there are talking about why we feel attacked and marginalized by Dworkin, rather than dueling theory vs. theory.

I'm not asking you to agree with us or not be angry with us for those comments. I'm just saying that I think you're misunderstanding what made us so mad a year ago. And that is that, well, most of us think that "theory" is generally of limited use, precisely because we find ourselves banging against the wall of, "okay, I see what this theory says, but then over here is my lived experience, which is wildly different."

[born_stubborn]

Even in my limited wisdom about feminism I've noticed that a vast majority of Andrea Dworkin's critics misinterpret what they don't even understand.

[demonista]

very true.

[kk0isonlymyname]

You should use quotation marks. I can't distinguish between the quotes and what you're saying.

[laurelinrain]

What I'd like to know is who is keeping tally of the 'feminist points'? Is there a grand marker out there, busy with their red pen?

[leanashe]

Or how radical feminists are even remotely oppressing BDSMers by having an opinion, for that matter!

[demonista]

omg, you disagree with what i do, you're oppressing me!!!!111eleventy

[tebewilderness]

Funny how people draw conclusions based on information of which they are ignorant.

[demonista]

yes, they've a knack for it.