You cannot say Oh nein, es gibt kein mehr Sauerkraut in any case. Or, well, you can, but it's not correct. Or at least if by correct you mean conforming to the way German is usually spoken, in Germany, by native speakers. (Really, correct is a bit of a problematic concept in and on itself, but I don't want to go off on a tangent here: you know what I mean.)
Thinking about it, I think mehr in German is fundamentally different from more in English here. Consider the sentence there is no more sauerkraut. To me, this basically means it is not true that there is additional sauerkraut, with additional capturing the meaning of more. Expressing this same sentiment in German, you might say es gibt kein weiteres Sauerkraut, which is a fairly straightforward and literal translation of there is no more sauerkraut. Note that weiteres is now in front of Sauerkraut: it modifies sauerkraut.
In fact, weiter is an adjective (seen here in an inflected form). mehr, on
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Not OP, but this was super helpful to read, thank you!
I'm guessing the reason frisch has to come after mehr is because frisch an adjective, whereas Sauerkraut is a noun. But I'm still very much a beginner, so pretty much just guessing based on sentences I've seen on Duolingo.
That was a very interesting explanation. The idea that mehr is used as an adverb is something I can remember.
I really miss being in an in-person class, where I can ask questions. I hope you don't mind if the village idiot here pops in with questions that seem very basic, compared to the usual discussion.
I understand where you're coming from, but your American English brain is wrong. ;) It has to be "...die Milch ist nicht mehr frisch." in this case. And no, mehr can also not be placed before Sauerkraut.
People who are much better than myself when it comes to German grammar AND can even explain it properly will surely come by and leave more detail. I can only say the hair on my neck stands up when I read the wrong sentences... XD
Edit: Hah, and there is schnee coming to the rescue already.
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Excellent question. I honestly don't know.
You cannot say Oh nein, es gibt kein mehr Sauerkraut in any case. Or, well, you can, but it's not correct. Or at least if by correct you mean conforming to the way German is usually spoken, in Germany, by native speakers. (Really, correct is a bit of a problematic concept in and on itself, but I don't want to go off on a tangent here: you know what I mean.)
Thinking about it, I think mehr in German is fundamentally different from more in English here. Consider the sentence there is no more sauerkraut. To me, this basically means it is not true that there is additional sauerkraut, with additional capturing the meaning of more. Expressing this same sentiment in German, you might say es gibt kein weiteres Sauerkraut, which is a fairly straightforward and literal translation of there is no more sauerkraut. Note that weiteres is now in front of Sauerkraut: it modifies sauerkraut.
In fact, weiter is an adjective (seen here in an inflected form). mehr, on ( ... )
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Not OP, but this was super helpful to read, thank you!
I'm guessing the reason frisch has to come after mehr is because frisch an adjective, whereas Sauerkraut is a noun. But I'm still very much a beginner, so pretty much just guessing based on sentences I've seen on Duolingo.
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Yes, that's my gut feeling as well.
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I really miss being in an in-person class, where I can ask questions. I hope you don't mind if the village idiot here pops in with questions that seem very basic, compared to the usual discussion.
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It has to be "...die Milch ist nicht mehr frisch." in this case.
And no, mehr can also not be placed before Sauerkraut.
People who are much better than myself when it comes to German grammar AND can even explain it properly will surely come by and leave more detail. I can only say the hair on my neck stands up when I read the wrong sentences... XD
Edit: Hah, and there is schnee coming to the rescue already.
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