Нана и философ. Vivre sa vie (1962), J.-L. Godard
Vivre sa vie (1962), J.-L. Godard.
Нана (Anna Karina) и философ (Brice Parain). Философ в этой сцене реальный, Brice Parain - бывший преподаватель Годара.
Интересно, как где-то ближе к концу этой сцены Годар разрушает очередную конвенцию кино - Анна Карина дважды вопросительно смотрит в камеру.
Click to viewPlace du Châtelet. A stranger.
Nana the unwitting philosopher
Nana. Mind if l look?
Nana. You look bored.
Philosopher. -Not at all
Nana. What are you doing?
Philosopher.-l'm reading
Nana. Will you buy me a drink?
Philosopher.-lf you like
Nana. Do you come here often?
Philosopher. -Occasionally. l happened by
Nana. Why are you reading?
Philosopher. -lt's my job
Nana. lt's odd
Nana. Suddenly l don't know what to say;
it often happens to me
Nana. l know what l want to say. l think
about whether it is what l mean
Nana. But when the moment comes to speak,
l can't say it
Philosopher. Yes, of course
Philosopher. You've read
The Three Musketeers?
Nana. l saw the film. Why?
Philosopher. Because in it, Porthos
Philosopher. this is really in
Twenty Years Later
Philosopher. Porthos, tall, strong,
a little stupid
Philosopher. he's never thought in his life
Philosopher. He has to place a bomb in a cellar
to blow it up
Philosopher. He does it
Philosopher. He places the bomb, lights the fuse,
then he runs away, of course
Philosopher. But suddenly he begins to think
Philosopher. What about? How it is possible
to put one foot before the other?
Philosopher. You must have thought about that, too
Philosopher. So he stops running. He can't go on,
he can't move forward
Philosopher. The bomb explodes,
the cellar falls on him
Philosopher. He holds it up with his shoulders
Philosopher. But after a day, or maybe two,
he is crushed to death
Philosopher. The first time he thought,
it killed him
Nana. Why did you tell me that story?
Philosopher. No reason, iust to talk
Nana. Why must one always talk?
Nana. Often one shouldn't talk,
but live in silence
Nana. The more one talks,
the less the words mean
Philosopher. Perhaps, but can one?
Nana. l don't know
Philosopher. l've found that we can't live
without talking
Nana. l'd like to live without talking
Philosopher. Yes, it would be nice, wouldn't it?
Philosopher. Like loving one another more
Philosopher. But it isn't possible
Nana. But why? Words should express
just what one wants to say
Nana. Do they betray us?
Philosopher. But we betray them, too
Philosopher. One should be able
to express oneself
Philosopher. lt has been done in writing
Philosopher. Think: someone like Plato
Philosopher. can still be understood - he can
Philosopher. Yet he wrote in Greek,
2,500 years ago
Philosopher. No one really knows the language,
at least, not exactly
Philosopher. Yet something gets through, so we
should be able to express ourselves
Philosopher. And we must
Nana. Why must we?
To understand each other?
Philosopher. We must think, and for thought
we need words
Philosopher. There's no other way to think
Philosopher. To communicate, one must talk;
that is our life
Nana. Yes, but it is very difficult
Nana. l think life should be easy
Nana. Your talk of The Three Musketeers
may make a good story
Nana. but it's terrible
Philosopher. Yes, but it's a pointer
Philosopher. l believe
Philosopher. one learns to talk well only when
one has renounced life for a time
Philosopher. That's the price.
Nana. -So, to speak is fatal?
Philosopher. Speaking is almost a resurrection
in relation to life
Philosopher. Speech is another life
from when one does not speak
Philosopher. So, to live in speech
Philosopher. one must pass through the death
of life without speech
Philosopher. l may not be putting it clearly,
but
Philosopher. there is a kind of ascetic rule
that stops one from talking well
Philosopher. until one sees life
with detachment
Nana. But one can't live everyday life
with... l don't know
Philosopher. With detachment
Philosopher. We balance, that's why we pass
from silence to words
Philosopher. We swing between the two
because it's the movement of life
Philosopher. From everyday life one rises
to a life we call superior
Philosopher. The thinking life
Philosopher. But this life presupposes
one has killed the everyday
Philosopher. too elementary life
Nana. Then thinking and talking
are the same thing?
Philosopher. So l believe
Philosopher. Plato said so; it's an old idea
Philosopher. One cannot distinguish the thought
from the words that express it
Philosopher. An instant of thought can only
be grasped through words
Nana. So one must talk and risk lying?
Philosopher. Lies, too, are part of our quest.
Errors and lies are very similar
Philosopher. l don't mean ordinary lies
Philosopher. like l promise to come tomorrow,
but l don't, as l didn't want to
Philosopher. You see, those are ploys
Philosopher. But a subtle lie is little
different from an error
Philosopher. One searches and can't find
the right word
Philosopher. That's why you didn't know
what to say
Philosopher. You were afraid of not finding the
right word. That's the explanation
Nana. How can one be sure of having found
the right word?
Philosopher. One must work
Philosopher. lt needs an effort
Philosopher. One must speak in a way
that is right, doesn't hurt
Philosopher. says what has to be said,
does what has to be done
Philosopher. without hurting or bruising
Philosopher. One must try to be in good faith
Nana. Someone told me: ''There is truth
in everything, even in error.''
Philosopher. That's true. France didn't see it
in the seventeenth century
Philosopher. They thought one could avoid error
Philosopher. and what's more, that one could
live directly in the truth
Philosopher. lt isn't possible
Philosopher. Hence Kant, Hegel, German philosophy:
to bring us back to life
Philosopher. and make us see that we must pass
through error to arrive at the truth
Nana. What do you think about love?
Philosopher. The body had to come into it
Philosopher. Leibnitz introduced the contingent
Philosopher. Contingent truths and necessary
truths make up life
Philosopher. German philosophy showed us that
Philosopher. in life, one thinks with the
servitudes and errors of life
Philosopher. One must manage with that,
that's true
Nana. Shouldn't love be the only truth?
Philosopher. For that, love would always have
to be true
Nana. Do you know anyone who knows
at once what he loves?
Philosopher. No. When you're twenty
you don't know
Philosopher. All you know are bits and pieces,
you make arbitrary choices
Philosopher. Your ''l love'' is an impure affair
Philosopher. But to be completely at one with
what you love, you need maturity
Philosopher. That means searching.
This is the truth of life
Philosopher. That's why love is a solution,
on condition that it is true