5 things.

Apr 12, 2009 12:17

A few things:

1) It is disconcerting to find one's eyes slightly blurry shortly after engaging in less than Christian activities.

2) If we needed more proof that I am not a good "girl," look no further than this. I was more of a four-square kid ( Read more... )

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hank_stamper April 13 2009, 01:52:52 UTC
5 - I don't think that making furniture with racist symbols on it is a true analogue to taking photos of a wedding... I think it'd be more like refusing to sell them ANY of the furniture you'd made.

I'm not sure about who should and who should not be required to provide services. It seems clear to me that doctors should have to provide everything, and like, custom tablemakers or whatever shouldn't have to do custom pieces that go against their morals. I don't know where exactly to draw the line, though. Restaurants don't seem like prima facie essential to me, but of course post-civil-rights, I know that they're a huge deal for discrimination movements.

A recent example of some of these issues:

http://jezebel.com/5209088/why-is-amazon-removing-the-sales-rankings-from-gay-lesbian-books

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capn_jil April 13 2009, 16:57:45 UTC
5. i'm pretty sure the answer is to just punch them then and there.

i know up here rcw 49.60.030 covers freedom from discrimination, and in it washingtonians enjoy the right to ( ... )

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hank_stamper April 13 2009, 21:18:11 UTC
I am not a lawyer and cannot give legal advice. Some thoughts:

Sexual orientation is a protected status in 20 states, according to the post article Lauren cited. It's definitely not a federally protected status, like race, gender, religion, etc.

Also, many businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone. If they're clever enough to say something ambiguous about why they're refusing service (because I didn't have time that day > because I didn't like the look of him > he's [a member of x protected group in this jurisdiction]), it's pretty tricky to nail them for discrimination.

If, on the other hand, it's the day before the wedding, as Lauren proposed, and the photographer backs out cause he's a phobe, you can prolly nail him for reliance damages through breach of contract without touching the discrimination issue, no matter what he backed out for.

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capn_jil April 14 2009, 18:16:08 UTC
yeah, depends on the state whether it is protected or not, nolo says

thanks for bringing up the "refuse service to anyone" thing i was going to bring that up but got sucked into work. but yeah. if you want to back out or deny service to a member of a protected group while covering your ass, you better have a clever reason

hence ass covering.

yeah.

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teratocarcinoma April 17 2009, 22:38:53 UTC
1. Those Jewish rituals, they lead to blindness you know.

5. If it was in New Mexico, chances are that the two parties are related, and that all this gay nonsense is just a cover-story for some feud, no doubt involving money owed for rent or drugs.

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