If nothing else, I will never, ever forget what my country is doing over there. As if finding out that one of my oldest, best friends will never walk again because of something that happened while he on deployment in Iraq wasn't enough
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In 1988 a teacher at my highschool made his students watch the film Faces of Death.
I was not in the class but my girlfriend at the time was. She left the class because she was freaked out and found me... I was of course skipping class at the time.
The thought was so repugnant to me that I immediately called my father (a journalist) who called all the other media outlets in town and within half an hour the campus was swarmed with media. It made the national newswire.
He also got suspended for a while (with pay) and it caused quite the stir.
The man to this day cannot look me in the face for the few times I have run into him.
There's a section of society that needs to be culled.
I haven't seen most of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, and I know that a lot of people consider them somewhat campy there in the middle. Some of the scenes they show, though, are conceptually repulsive.
Take, for instance, the scene in one of the movies where Freddy is feeding someone to death. At some point, he slices open a doll's gut and begins feeding the person their entrails.
Let's repeat that: Freddy is feeding someone their own intestines. They're being forced to eat a string of organs; the organ which produces and refines feces, no less. In the original scene, the woman's family and their dinner guests are sitting around the dinner table, laughing happily at the spectacle.
People think that's entertaining. A screenwriter thought the scene belonged in his movie. The director and producers agreed. People have complained that the scene was altered for the DVD release, complained that it's no longer that obvious that this victim is eating shit-filled flesh from their
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Grotesque moviesdil3mmaJanuary 2 2007, 14:50:02 UTC
You know... this bothers me a lot less.
There is something intrinsically different in seeing something disgusting in a movie and seeing something that is real.
I'm not saying that these movies that are made to be ubersick are a good idea... it's just less disturbing to me than watching a real human being die in a grizzly way.
Re: Grotesque moviesthraerynJanuary 3 2007, 00:18:31 UTC
I won't dispute that there's a difference between something filmed for a movie and a real event that was caught on camera. And yes, the real images are undoubtedly more powerful than even the most realistic special effects wizardry. It still just makes my blood boil that people are entertained by viewing that sort of inhuman cruelty.
Don't you think it's a fitting end to the Muslim witch-hunt? "We" couldn't catch the one we wanted, so we went after one too arrogant to run. We had to have one publicly tortured for being an "evil" Islamic extremist, what's wrong with this one? And how will we get our revenge if we can't see it and gloat over it? Hell, they got to celebrate after they killed us, it's only fair, right? And hey, the more we can celebrate this one being dead, the more we can continue to ignore that we haven't caught that other one...what was his name again? You know, the one that actually did something to us...
We are evolving socially. However, the word evolve does not necessarily mean that the change will meet your personal definition of a good thing. Creatures evolve physically, emotionally and intellectually because of their environment. Obviously, we are not "better than this" as a society. You, personally, might be "better than this" now, but you're fooling yourself if you think our society is or was ever better than this.
Your viewing of Dwyer's suicide had an impact on your life and your way of thinking. Without the haunting memory and all of the self-realization that came with it, would you be the same person you are today? Perhaps this just served to show you that society has not changed that much since '87, but that you have.
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I was not in the class but my girlfriend at the time was. She left the class because she was freaked out and found me... I was of course skipping class at the time.
The thought was so repugnant to me that I immediately called my father (a journalist) who called all the other media outlets in town and within half an hour the campus was swarmed with media. It made the national newswire.
He also got suspended for a while (with pay) and it caused quite the stir.
The man to this day cannot look me in the face for the few times I have run into him.
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There's a section of society that needs to be culled.
I haven't seen most of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, and I know that a lot of people consider them somewhat campy there in the middle. Some of the scenes they show, though, are conceptually repulsive.
Take, for instance, the scene in one of the movies where Freddy is feeding someone to death. At some point, he slices open a doll's gut and begins feeding the person their entrails.
Let's repeat that: Freddy is feeding someone their own intestines. They're being forced to eat a string of organs; the organ which produces and refines feces, no less. In the original scene, the woman's family and their dinner guests are sitting around the dinner table, laughing happily at the spectacle.
People think that's entertaining. A screenwriter thought the scene belonged in his movie. The director and producers agreed. People have complained that the scene was altered for the DVD release, complained that it's no longer that obvious that this victim is eating shit-filled flesh from their ( ... )
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There is something intrinsically different in seeing something disgusting in a movie and seeing something that is real.
I'm not saying that these movies that are made to be ubersick are a good idea... it's just less disturbing to me than watching a real human being die in a grizzly way.
P.S. The world is steadily going crazy.
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Wow... with the administration never mentioning him... I damn near forgot!
GOOD JOB ADMINISTRATION AND MEDIA!
*sigh*
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"Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee- haw!!!"
What else would you have us do with an oil rustler?
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"Yeehaw is NOT a foreign policy."
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Your viewing of Dwyer's suicide had an impact on your life and your way of thinking. Without the haunting memory and all of the self-realization that came with it, would you be the same person you are today? Perhaps this just served to show you that society has not changed that much since '87, but that you have.
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But the media in 2006 decided it was ok.
I am hoping 2007 brings some sort of better sense of right and wrong.
I'm not holding my breath though.
The video of Dwyer offing himself is available on the web for viewing.
I HIGHLY SUGGEST NOT SEEING IT however.
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