Where did the wards come from?

Jan 30, 2005 17:58

I've been wondering for a while now - where did all the wards come from?

In HP fanfic, one sees a lot of wards. They're preferably used as defences for larger areas, buildings etc. No. 4 Privet Drive and Hogwarts have been protected by wards in many a fic, in early and widespread ones like After the End (where they're turn up for the first time in ( Read more... )

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dipsas January 30 2005, 09:16:29 UTC
Arthur Weasley goes to work by Floo, and not be Apparating, which indicates that there are a lot of places you cannot just materialise in.

Mm, and another hint at that would be that at the Ministry, everyone seems to Apparate to the Atrium, not directly into their offices, so that there's a 'designated arrival' area..

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straussmonster January 30 2005, 11:26:03 UTC
It's such a generic fantasy concept that it seems never to have occurred to people: Can you DO that with magic in the Potterverse? Does it work that way? But no, with a flick of a wand Snape wards his door, Hogwarts is 'warded'...

Jack for evidence or thinking through the mechanics of it; it's one of the more insidious cases of fanon, but can get pretty obnoxious (IMO) pretty fast.

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dipsas January 30 2005, 11:47:09 UTC
But no, with a flick of a wand Snape wards his door, Hogwarts is 'warded'...

He, he...That's exactly what I meant. It was actually thanks to rather a rabid plotbunny (a heavily warded one) that I started thinking about it at all.

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straussmonster January 30 2005, 12:05:20 UTC
One of the many things that makes me go "buh?" reading fic. There are *worse* things. Take your pick of:

Tolkienesque elves
Large and humanoid fairies or ANY concept of 'the fae' (please, no)
Demons
Magic that varies in effects by blood status (SO uncanonical and anti-theme)
Wiccan-esque magic, pseudo- or not
Elemental magic
Grand Ceremonial Magic
Superhuman abilities of werewolves (senses, thinking like a wolf, etc.)

None of it is there...

(off the soapbox)

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dipsas January 30 2005, 12:31:21 UTC
I caught a bad headache already at the words 'Tolkienesque elves'...
*hurries back to her sheltered life*

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dipsas March 22 2005, 22:37:35 UTC
Hey, you wear librarian glasses and stripper shoes! I'm adding you right back.

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flossums June 1 2005, 03:45:40 UTC
Sorry...I friends-hopped from maple_clef (mainly because I liked the kitten icon)

Personally, I think the wards in Harry Potter are a cross-over from the Chrestomanci series. 'Raising the wards' are frequently in that series, and I've noticed that a fair few people that have read Harry Potter have also read Chrestomanci.

It's a theory anyway :)

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dipsas June 1 2005, 04:57:15 UTC
Hi there,
friendshopping is fun, isn't it? :) Mmm, since I wrote that post, I've also realised wards and warding is an important concept in LeGuin's Earthsea books as well. I had a hunch we had all seen it in writing somewhere...

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flossums June 3 2005, 19:18:17 UTC
Mm...heaps of books use wards, tis no wonder the harry potter fandom borrowed them. It made me feel like a bit of an idiot though because I'm pretty sure I've slipped a mention of 'wards' into my stories without even thinking on it.

On an unrelated note - LeGuin's Earthsea books? I don't think I've heard of them, are they any good?

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dipsas June 3 2005, 23:43:49 UTC
It made me feel like a bit of an idiot though because I'm pretty sure I've slipped a mention of 'wards' into my stories without even thinking on it.

...does it feel better if I tell you that was exactly how I got thinking about it - I had used the idea of wards extensively for a fic (and ever more for various plotbunnies that never hopped anywhere) and suddenly realised uh-uh... ...in the end, I left them where they were, though, so you're in good company.

And speaking of good company, I hope you won't mind that I'm now off to friend you?

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