Comments | direwolf23: When standing up means falling down

direwolf23

When standing up means falling down

Jul 13, 2010 11:39

FULL LETTERRecently, 40 retired Military Chaplains wrote the above letter to the President voicing their concerns over the repeal of DADT in the US. Their primary concerns are the "normalizing of homosexuality in the armed forces", and protecting the religious freedom of current chaplains to speak out against homosexuality according to their ( Read more... )

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firedhusky July 13 2010, 17:57:33 UTC

separation of church and state is just a cute concept at the most.

Is unrealistic to expect lawmakers to leave their religious beliefs aside when proposing/making or voting for laws.

The real sad part, is that some religious lawmakers, don`t carry their lives as their religion expects them to. => hypocrites.

or live a life of lies.. like our friend Roy Ashburn. (gay catholic.. anti-gay legislator).

direwolf23 July 13 2010, 19:19:59 UTC

I actually don't think it's too much too ask. I think perhaps we're asking the wrong people though. If the people we have in there try and impose religious law upon all citizens, we need to remove them in favor of those who can make laws that benefit all people, and treat all people equally.

firedhusky July 13 2010, 19:33:08 UTC

Totally agree with you. Is just not easy, when voters are as hypocrites as the legislators... or in some other cases, they are just as nuts.

aiden_raccoon July 15 2010, 23:33:05 UTC

At least Roy Ashburn has vowed to never again vote against gay rights. I think that he could even become the next gay rights activist believe it or not. He does seem ashamed that he used to be like that and I believe that he may even choose to make up for it somehow.

sasya_fox July 13 2010, 21:14:57 UTC

The US Army is, in many ways, at the forefront of religious freedom.

No, really, I'm serious.

From what I've seen over the past few years, they've been actively work to incorporate many different faiths- many. You may laugh, but in fact the US army is in many ways a very progressive military organization, recognizing neo-paganism, wicca, and many and varied formal faiths from across the world, as well as judaism, christianity, etc.

This isn't intended as a refutation in any way-- it's just an observation. It is also, of course, from an external perspective.

But at the very least, the effort I've witnessed impresses me.

~Foxy

enders_shadow July 13 2010, 22:25:25 UTC

Multi-faith it may be; I've still heard of problems for the non-believers.

one of my buddies was joining the marines and he showed me something they gave him that included a prayer; the prayer was non-denominational but it included "whatever God you believe in"

Which really shouldn't be anywhere in our military. The whole religion as institution is so...absurd. Pray in the closet, if you must pray. No one need know your faith but you and your [imaginary] friend.

darkwolph July 13 2010, 21:45:25 UTC

As you would no doubt expect, I agree with you wholeheartedly on this issue. The idea that DADT should maintain in place because of an *assumed* risk posed to chaplains is, simply put, ridiculous. For any number of reasons, not the *least* of which is the already large number of gay individuals serving in the military ( ... )

aiden_raccoon July 15 2010, 23:35:49 UTC

Ya, but Catholic Charities acted like they were the only adoption choice in the world. They only had to comply because they take public money.