Sorry for the cross posting guys, but this journal has more ppl on and its important...
(please read and tell me what u think).
"i am extreamly bored at work so basically i have hit almost every website (no..not THOSE..websites) that i can think of. i found this article on www.toronto-goth.com and it pissed the hell out of me. please read and let me know what u think
Dress Codes Please!!!
Well hello again to all my fellow nightwalkers Raven_Nyte here, it’s been quite some time since my last excerpts on Toronto Goth. I do want to thank those who took the time to reply and relay their comments be it negative or positive to my articles. I only hope that this latest installment fare equally as well. Now on to the reason for my latest entry.
I am sure that all of you beautiful nightwalkers enjoy the nightlife and everything our amazing clubs have to offer. Depending on the night of the week there is almost always no dress code to really worry about. Though most of you out there remain true to your ghoulish night wear on most nights be it Decompression nights, kontrol Asylum nights, Cyber fetish nights, The Freakishly mystical Absinthe nights at Vatikan, etc, all are a place we all can feel comfortable amongst our own nocturnal kind.
Keeping in mind that all liquor establishments need to make their money, club owners almost always won’t turn away paying customers as long there isn’t any trouble. Logical? I say yes. I must agree. But what I ‘d like to know is what is with the brightly dressed GAP friendly people invading the most sacred Goth nights, in case point the Absinthe nights at Vatikan. I must admit I was witness to such eye sore one Absinthe night. In all fairness, I must say they were minding their own business, but truthfully what is wrong with this picture my Goth! It was an eerie thing to witness. So many eye singeing color. Again, keeping in mind that they were peaceful paying customers, it just didn’t seem appropriate to have a tiny whirlpool of preppies in sea of beautiful nightwalkers. Needless to say patience proved to be a virtue that frightful night.
Shall we move unto the topic of dare I say glow-sticks? They do tend to be yet another eye sore. Keep in mind dearest Gothlings, I am in no position to really comment on what type of people Savage Garden allows in but on past occasions I have bared witnessed to ravers and glow -sticks in said establishment. It isn’t too bad if they are gearing up for the ever-popular Dark Rave. But having to see glow-sticks on any other night is a bit too much. I could be wrong? (Somehow I doubt it.) I am sure there are many places in our fare city for these glow-stick happy people to convene, so my question is why invade our darkened clubs? In all fairness it could be for the music. But really folks how often do you really see fully Goth-clad dark lings making their presence known in a dance club, Pallatzo’s, Limelight, or Tequila Lounge or where have you. I mean think about it, a bunch of us Ghoulish lovelies, whooping it up amongst a heard of Iroc driving, pro GAP babies with way too much Eau de toilet or Polo and Tommy Boy even. Yikes! That is enough to drive a Goth to normalcy. Readers of this article I employ you not to attempt to visualize this scenario it will hurt the eyes.
All kidding aside I personally think that all Goth clubs should really enforce dress codes. Sure logically that may scare away many who maybe regulars, but I do happen to know many of Toronto’s other night clubs will absolutely deny you entry if not dressed accordingly. Therefore I think that our Dark dwellings should do the absolute same thing? By doing this, it may just eliminate all the baggy pant skater ravers infesting our sanctums. You don’t want to get me started on what type of individuals roll in our said clubs in the summer time. Suffice it to say picture Bermuda surf shorts and Birkenstocks, children can we say Oh My Goth ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!
Ok I’ll confess summer nights can become very warm and in our smaller club venues some may even sweat or lightly glow if you will, still tend to wear their Ghoulish best on the dance floor. So I ask you Bermuda shorts? Accccck! Honestly to each their own, but do so in an appropriate establishment. i.e. out door Firkin pubs etc. makes logical sense right? Please let it be known that I don’t have anything against outdoor bar& grill places. One can’t really complain right? After all we do have Queen St West’s finest semi-outdoor establishment The Java House. Most might call it a dive, yet the rest of us call it our special hole in the wall. I myself fall into its obscure charm now and again. Err hemmmmmmmm!!
Getting back in focus here, I do believe that dress codes are highly efficient and important as much as any other club goers who really enjoy their types of clubs or dwelling if you will. Readers please DO NOT assume I am bashing skaters ravers etc, this again is merely my opinion no one else’s. Enjoy accordingly.
I may not be able to change the minds of the club owners, and that’s fine. I just wanted to make a personal observation and share it with all of you, and for those who never noticed before while in these clubs to perhaps on your own time take notice of some of the people who happen to stroll in.
Well I’ll end things here my beautiful Goth lings, as always Carpe Noctem.
P.S. again I do welcome all feedback be it positive or negative.
Cheers until next time.
*me again, ok this is what i think*
first of all, i know alot of 'true' alt. lifestyle, music style, whatever u want to call them are against conformity, and i guess u can say against judgment and discrimination, since they *we* have all expierenced it from 'preps' or whatever. so why in god's name should we sink down to that level just so our clubs can look 'cough cough evil'? i think that's wrong.
im friends with everyone and occasionally i have brought my preppy or gina or even rapper friends to clubs like velvet or savage. not one person gave them trouble, infact some of them got hit on!:)
some ppl, may be heavily into gothic music, but dont dress the part, or they could be like me-they've tonned down their look over the years, but still apprciate the music.
no one should be denied entry based on clothes.
clubs should be there for ppl that want to have a good time, see their friends and listen to good music.
many of us make fun of preps and say they are ignorant, well we are just as ignorant sometimes*according to this fool's article*especially, if like what i said before, we are gonna sink down to their level.
to all of you that judge ppl based ONLY on their looks or that refuse to befriend ppl out side of YOUR stupid scene, then i seriously think ur lame and need a wake up call. cause when ur 60 years old, will u stil be sporting that hawk or that pvc trench coat or that green hair? if u still are, good for u!! but lets see whats gonna happen when u 'darklings' try to get a job that requires YOU to dress like THEM. then u'll see how it feels."
"i am extreamly bored at work so basically i have hit almost every website (no..not THOSE..websites) that i can think of. i found this article on www.toronto-goth.com and it pissed the hell out of me. please read and let me know what u think
Dress Codes Please!!!
Well hello again to all my fellow nightwalkers Raven_Nyte here, it’s been quite some time since my last excerpts on Toronto Goth. I do want to thank those who took the time to reply and relay their comments be it negative or positive to my articles. I only hope that this latest installment fare equally as well. Now on to the reason for my latest entry.
I am sure that all of you beautiful nightwalkers enjoy the nightlife and everything our amazing clubs have to offer. Depending on the night of the week there is almost always no dress code to really worry about. Though most of you out there remain true to your ghoulish night wear on most nights be it Decompression nights, kontrol Asylum nights, Cyber fetish nights, The Freakishly mystical Absinthe nights at Vatikan, etc, all are a place we all can feel comfortable amongst our own nocturnal kind.
Keeping in mind that all liquor establishments need to make their money, club owners almost always won’t turn away paying customers as long there isn’t any trouble. Logical? I say yes. I must agree. But what I ‘d like to know is what is with the brightly dressed GAP friendly people invading the most sacred Goth nights, in case point the Absinthe nights at Vatikan. I must admit I was witness to such eye sore one Absinthe night. In all fairness, I must say they were minding their own business, but truthfully what is wrong with this picture my Goth! It was an eerie thing to witness. So many eye singeing color. Again, keeping in mind that they were peaceful paying customers, it just didn’t seem appropriate to have a tiny whirlpool of preppies in sea of beautiful nightwalkers. Needless to say patience proved to be a virtue that frightful night.
Shall we move unto the topic of dare I say glow-sticks? They do tend to be yet another eye sore. Keep in mind dearest Gothlings, I am in no position to really comment on what type of people Savage Garden allows in but on past occasions I have bared witnessed to ravers and glow -sticks in said establishment. It isn’t too bad if they are gearing up for the ever-popular Dark Rave. But having to see glow-sticks on any other night is a bit too much. I could be wrong? (Somehow I doubt it.) I am sure there are many places in our fare city for these glow-stick happy people to convene, so my question is why invade our darkened clubs? In all fairness it could be for the music. But really folks how often do you really see fully Goth-clad dark lings making their presence known in a dance club, Pallatzo’s, Limelight, or Tequila Lounge or where have you. I mean think about it, a bunch of us Ghoulish lovelies, whooping it up amongst a heard of Iroc driving, pro GAP babies with way too much Eau de toilet or Polo and Tommy Boy even. Yikes! That is enough to drive a Goth to normalcy. Readers of this article I employ you not to attempt to visualize this scenario it will hurt the eyes.
All kidding aside I personally think that all Goth clubs should really enforce dress codes. Sure logically that may scare away many who maybe regulars, but I do happen to know many of Toronto’s other night clubs will absolutely deny you entry if not dressed accordingly. Therefore I think that our Dark dwellings should do the absolute same thing? By doing this, it may just eliminate all the baggy pant skater ravers infesting our sanctums. You don’t want to get me started on what type of individuals roll in our said clubs in the summer time. Suffice it to say picture Bermuda surf shorts and Birkenstocks, children can we say Oh My Goth ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!
Ok I’ll confess summer nights can become very warm and in our smaller club venues some may even sweat or lightly glow if you will, still tend to wear their Ghoulish best on the dance floor. So I ask you Bermuda shorts? Accccck! Honestly to each their own, but do so in an appropriate establishment. i.e. out door Firkin pubs etc. makes logical sense right? Please let it be known that I don’t have anything against outdoor bar& grill places. One can’t really complain right? After all we do have Queen St West’s finest semi-outdoor establishment The Java House. Most might call it a dive, yet the rest of us call it our special hole in the wall. I myself fall into its obscure charm now and again. Err hemmmmmmmm!!
Getting back in focus here, I do believe that dress codes are highly efficient and important as much as any other club goers who really enjoy their types of clubs or dwelling if you will. Readers please DO NOT assume I am bashing skaters ravers etc, this again is merely my opinion no one else’s. Enjoy accordingly.
I may not be able to change the minds of the club owners, and that’s fine. I just wanted to make a personal observation and share it with all of you, and for those who never noticed before while in these clubs to perhaps on your own time take notice of some of the people who happen to stroll in.
Well I’ll end things here my beautiful Goth lings, as always Carpe Noctem.
P.S. again I do welcome all feedback be it positive or negative.
Cheers until next time.
*me again, ok this is what i think*
first of all, i know alot of 'true' alt. lifestyle, music style, whatever u want to call them are against conformity, and i guess u can say against judgment and discrimination, since they *we* have all expierenced it from 'preps' or whatever. so why in god's name should we sink down to that level just so our clubs can look 'cough cough evil'? i think that's wrong.
im friends with everyone and occasionally i have brought my preppy or gina or even rapper friends to clubs like velvet or savage. not one person gave them trouble, infact some of them got hit on!:)
some ppl, may be heavily into gothic music, but dont dress the part, or they could be like me-they've tonned down their look over the years, but still apprciate the music.
no one should be denied entry based on clothes.
clubs should be there for ppl that want to have a good time, see their friends and listen to good music.
many of us make fun of preps and say they are ignorant, well we are just as ignorant sometimes*according to this fool's article*especially, if like what i said before, we are gonna sink down to their level.
to all of you that judge ppl based ONLY on their looks or that refuse to befriend ppl out side of YOUR stupid scene, then i seriously think ur lame and need a wake up call. cause when ur 60 years old, will u stil be sporting that hawk or that pvc trench coat or that green hair? if u still are, good for u!! but lets see whats gonna happen when u 'darklings' try to get a job that requires YOU to dress like THEM. then u'll see how it feels."