To the closet anti-choicer on a friend's LJ

Dec 21, 2009 21:31

It took me too long to pen my response to a good and spicy argument that is going on elsewhere, so the argument passed me by. But I'd written my response! So I post it here.
An open letter to those people who support the health care legislation that limits abortion for women on a gov't health care plan
I wasn't going to weigh in on this abortion/ ( Read more... )

squidz, rant

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starcannibal December 22 2009, 06:59:25 UTC

Amen!

I am waiting for the day that some state denies a woman the right to an abortion and she sues for child support.
Because clearly, if she cannot have the right to choose and is forced to give birth then, the state which refused her must be held liable.

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djehutysherit December 22 2009, 17:08:00 UTC
I am desperately searching for a poem I saw a slam poet do about this very topic...it left me breathless. Will post it when i find it.

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kijeren December 22 2009, 17:15:08 UTC
Oh, man. I hadn't thought of that, but now I am also waiting!

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chelleann77 December 22 2009, 15:57:53 UTC
Thank you, thank you so much, her arguments made me so upset that I was up half the night irritated with her.

Which is a lot of wasted time when I wasn't cleaning my gun and reminds me why I rarely get into arguments on the internet.

I love you, and I love we believe in a "without apology" framework here.

And fuck all the people who hide their moral judgments behind stupid tax payer rhetoric. If you believe it, you own it.

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djehutysherit December 22 2009, 17:10:03 UTC
this is one of those all or nothing arguments. either you're in favor of a woman choosing her own destiny or you're not. all the rest of the blah blah is just a person trying to hide behind the rhetoric.
the terror i have is that people like the woman in the argument DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY BELIEVE. they just repeat slogans that they've pieced together to avoid having to face the real questions.

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kailara December 22 2009, 16:18:02 UTC
Amen!

And thank you for putting that better than I ever could. I agree - on demand and no apologies.

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djehutysherit December 22 2009, 17:11:16 UTC
It is an excellent, old, and rarely used slogan now.
so many feminists are afraid to offend someone with it...funny isn't it?

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kijeren December 22 2009, 17:16:33 UTC
Do we have a graphic artist in the group? We should create a badge, like the "no pity, no shame, no silence" I have on my profile.

At the very least, I think I'm going to add "on demand and no apologies" to my interests list.

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kijeren December 22 2009, 17:19:42 UTC
whoops. interests can only be five words.
So, "on demand without apology" added instead.

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kijeren December 22 2009, 16:59:32 UTC
Thank you. Thank you so very much.

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djehutysherit December 22 2009, 17:12:29 UTC
You're welcome. she pushed my button. my hair caught fire. i started to scream. then i had to write.
I am glad you appreciate my ranting rage.

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kijeren December 22 2009, 17:14:03 UTC
I'm pretty sure my responses (a day late, but better late than never) were rational. But wow.

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ashtoreth December 22 2009, 16:59:53 UTC
Even speaking from a purely financial standpoint, the cost of an abortion is considerably less than the cost of caring for the pregnant woman for nine months (prenatal care is expensive) and that new child for the rest of its life.

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djehutysherit December 22 2009, 17:15:27 UTC
so, this is also in that poem i'm looking for...challenging the people who force a woman to have a baby to actually CARE for that baby, raise it, put it thru college...if the argument is about the cost, it is no contest.
Dude, m's about to get me to write my congresswoman.

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