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[doc_moreau]

People are so stupid.
Though it is true everywhere, right now i am referring only to [a large number of] Americans. Goddamn!
People are so stupid. That is all.

OH NOOoooo, government takeover of healthcare NOOOOO!!!! IT IS THE END OF THE WORDL :O
NOOOOO, not teh evil, EVIL socialism!!!

Comments

[elgoatherd]

My condolences on living in a fascist communist socialist state or, uh, something.

It scares me a little to think what it might have been like if my dad - who has Type 1 diabetes - didn't live somewhere with socialized medicine. That he's as healthy as he is 45 years after diagnosis is completely down to all the drugs, treatment and equipment provided by the NHS. Not just stuff for the illness itself but preventative care to further reduce the chance of long term complications (blood pressure drugs, statins etc).

I'm very fond of the US having grown up there. It would be nice if you all eventually managed to prove that having a decent healthcare system doesn't necessarily mean you'll end up quite as much as a police state as the UK currently is (IMO).

also do Freepers realize how unintentionally funny 'Obummer' sounds to someone from the UK?

[nahaniotieno]

Honestly, I kinda have a problem with the health care bill

[elgoatherd]

Over here you can still choose to go private if you want to, and a lot of people do just that to avoid the waiting lists

[nahaniotieno]

Over here you can still choose to go private if you want to.Which is indeed good to have, but here, it's pretty much the only option

[elgoatherd]

Coming in a bit late with this reply but meh..

One of the reasons I'd like to see the US eventually succeed in reforming healthcare is because it would confirm my belief that having UHC doesn't necessarily mean 'European socialism' or - Goat forbid - becoming as bureaucratic and authoritarian as the UK. I personally believe that the political system, culture and geography of the US makes such a thing extremely unlikely.

I admit I have no idea of the practicalities of health reform though. When I look at how high healthcare costs are in the US I wonder if it's gone past the point where it can be nationalized in any meaningful way. I hope not.

Also the NHS is basically a massive experiment that has been ongoing for 60 years now - any country wanting to set up UHC from scratch is going to have decades of working out to do.

(/random thoughts)