Choose Gary Johnson and Bill Weld - don't pick the meteor

Jul 09, 2016 11:24

At a time when 13% of registered voters polled showed a preference of having a giant meteor hit the Earth to having Trump or Clinton as president, the Libertarian ticket, starring former governors Johnson and Weld, hits it out of the park with a no-hype, plain-talking ad...

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If they poll at 15%, they will be in the presidential debates this year. ( Read more... )

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apostle_of_eris July 10 2016, 06:51:43 UTC
Environment? Sue for damages after things are fucked up.
Education? Buy it on the free market.
Sick? Buy health care on the free market.
Job? You are free to negotiate with Megacorp.
Guns? But whatever you want on the free market.

What could go wrong?

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docstrange July 10 2016, 15:33:26 UTC
Did you actually read the party's platform, or are you just projecting your idea of it?

Really, you're better than that. Please compare with Ms. Clinton's platform.

ETA: I ask because neither candidate has (ever) proposed the above. But if you're satisfied with the current two-party system and the positions and realities of the laws their representatives pass, then a third party - even one you do not agree with - won't attract you as a way to push your preferred party more in your direction.

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Libertoonians apostle_of_eris July 10 2016, 17:54:40 UTC
Yes I did read the platform. Each of those absurdities is in it.

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Re: Libertoonians docstrange July 10 2016, 19:39:12 UTC
First, I have, too, and that is more or less a caricature of it you present. More like a straw man edition than a serious rendition. Just picking one example, on the environment, the part about courts for redress is in reference to government-driven environmental damage today being performed by an unaccountable government. The party treats environmental damage as an externality, one of the few places overarching regulation is necessary - but they also believe in individual rights, and thus the individual right to seek redress for violations of those regulations. Maybe you could read up on them.

And second - you're convinced the current two parties offer better solutions? I am serious in asking that. Maybe you are capable of a serious answer.

All I see in the Democrats' platform of the proposed democratic "socialism" is government-blessed captains of industry, in which we will have more or less recreated Colbertism.

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thewronghands July 10 2016, 18:28:54 UTC
That's a pretty appealing ad. I bet it gets lots of people who are dissatisfied with their current options. (I enjoyed talking to New Mexicans about what they thought Johnson was like as a governor... pretty different from what happened when I talked to Chicagoans about what they thought about the President when he held local office, heh. That was surprising to me!)

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docstrange July 10 2016, 19:40:18 UTC
Yeah. Johnson was simply effective and didn't flinch from doing what was necessary, and still had state government doing the things that it is best at doing. With a surplus.

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khallis July 10 2016, 20:45:52 UTC
I am, predictably, all in.

I enthusiastically support Johnson, Weld, and this ad.

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docstrange July 10 2016, 21:15:36 UTC
Yes, the choice of Weld as a running mate is interesting. It would be very interesting to see the two parties dealing with a veto authority that signs and vetoes legislation on the basis of a very different calculus than either has dealt with before (and separately from party in-politics).

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apostle_of_eris July 10 2016, 22:10:27 UTC
I directly quoted or paraphrased the "libertarian" platform and you couldn't recognize the references.
Now you are arguing with assertions about the "Democrats" and "Republicans" which do not exist. I said nothing about them.

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docstrange July 10 2016, 23:23:29 UTC
Ok, I am starting to think you're not interested in dialog since you're engaging in meta-discourse only ( ... )

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