Bullshit! Get your hot-buttered patriarchal bullshit!

[ladydreamtime]

Would you mind giving me the names of the "several people" spouting this alpha-male nonsense, so I know to never date them?

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[pierceheart]

You already have the name, that of the OP, who comes across as "Now, this might sound sexist, but someone else said it, so don't kill the messenger."

[cuddlycthulhu]

That's like the person who asks "So, a friend of mine wants to know..."

[corvaxgirl]

Ugh, don't even get me started on so-called alpha males. Twenty bucks says he considers himself one but won't take the responsibility for calling himself one.

[cuddlycthulhu]

My bet is he considers himself one, does not find himself dripping with women, and wonders what he's doing wrong.

[corvaxgirl]

WAT! I KEEP TELLING THEM I'M AN ALPHA! THAT MUST MAKE IT BOTH TRUE *AND* DESIRABLE! WHY AM I ALOOOOOOOOOOONE!

[arabwel]

You would both lose. :P

[arabwel]

Do you read Finnish? cause this has been a MASSIVE ton of stupid-ass BS spouted in the FInnish blogosphere about "Lovwer level men" and how lack of sex is a masculinist issue and so on and so on and so on - including the polyamory angle. I have not followed it very closely but it is perfectly understandable that he'd want to get a more international opinion on the issue.

I've known

[sxxk1ttn]

i think i'm confused as to why he- as an "as far from sexist asshat as you can get" kinda guy- is even deigning to give such a prerogative this amount of mental weight in the first place. especially since you point out it is a topic and perspective held by masculinists.

people are at the far end of being invested in feminist discourse and ideology wouldn't consider this to be a legitimate exercise in mental gymnastics to begin with for any number of psychological, social, biological, financial, etc etc reasons, not just feminist ones. it wouldn't matter what the international opinion is because it's a flawed argument in the first place. the only reason one would need to get confirmation internationally would be to validate a personally held opinion, otherwise it's so absurd that you certainly don't need to validate that internationally since you don't subscribe to it so it doesn't matter what the other kids at school think.

[arabwel]

Tbh, I don't know. I jsut stand by my opinion of Xue as not just a Decent Human being, but also one who is Trying To Do Something About Stuff Thats Not Right. I'm not a mind-reader.

[sxxk1ttn]

so, is panuhorsmalahti your buddy or xuenay? or is he a sock for one of you guys?

because either way, one of you invited the guy with lots of feelings about how men should be allowed to rape everyone and be socially applauded for it into the conversation and that doesn't really say much for your questionable judgement about men or your vouching for the character and credibility of xuenay and his associates.

GOOD JOB!

[miraba]

Holy gender issues, Batman!

[tisiphone]

/serious hat on

I'm guessing this argument is an extension from observation of what has occurred in some FLDS polygamist communities, where younger men are expelled from the community while older and more powerful men have multiple wives. So that is in fact a situation where non-monogamy (though not nearly polyamory) has resulted in a case of a small group of "alpha males" with a large number of women and all the other men out in the cold. Although I really can't see that happening in any sort of reality-based polyamory community, and it's completely antithetical to the notion that women, too, can have multiple partners, it's easy to see how someone who swallows evo psych like it's chocolate ice cream and doesn't know a lot about the various flavors of non-dyadic relationships could make that logical leap.

/serious hat off

/snark hat on

What an eejit.

[arabwel]

I suggest you check the links on his LJ to stuff like h is recent article on evo psych being a bunch of baslls, to paraphrase. He's far less of an eejit than you'd think

[tehuti]

"Intelligence" and "eejit" are not mutually exclusive.

[arabwel]

Nope, they are not. But I would like to think that based on the quality of opinion and ability to articulate his writings demonstrate, he is far less of an eejit you might think