And there's thatveljaDecember 26 2015, 08:59:13 UTC
I don't particularly like to be the first to comment here but... well, looks like I'll have to be. Someone has to make a start I guess. I'll try to put my thoughts into words
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Re: And there's thatveljaDecember 26 2015, 13:48:17 UTC
You're absolutely right, it would have been improbable for them to react any different than how they did in that scene. It called for seriousness and resignation (speaking from Robert's and Carson's POV). What jarred me is just that... I don't know, as a die-hard Thomas fan from the first moment it was hard for me not to cheer and clap him on the back so to speak. I was just so happy for him, and relieved that they'd gone that way, that I wanted for them to dwell on that topic for longer.
But of course, as a fic writer, this is a dream come true. Now I can explore and change things... there's already something of an idea forming in my head... like, the other servants' reaction to the news, or Mary's and little George's reaction...
Re: And there's thathaikittehDecember 26 2015, 18:55:45 UTC
I agree about the Carson/Thomas ending feeling heavy-handed and clumsy. Carson's too savvy to let it all go down like that. Especially once he realized he had this hereditary condition, he would have done everything to cover it up - I just can't believe that he'd keep trying to pour and then have outbursts like that in front of the Quality. He would have arranged to have someone else pour and maybe reached out himself to get Thomas to stay - then it could have been one of those things where he had to swallow his pride with Thomas, and Thomas could have been the better man and accepted.
But all that would require something that Fellowes absolutely cannot abide: character development. So instead we got what was on screen.
That said, I wept through the whole thing. I loved this show and even though the storytelling is consistently clumsy and repetitive, I was given so many happy endings that I ended up being happy myself.
after her pointless vacillations sucked up most of this season.
Oh, come now, let's not forget the waffling over Tony and Charles...wasn't that a season and a Christmas special?
Even though I will quietly ship Isobel & the Doc forever, I am SO glad that Lord M finally grew a spine. I wished Isobel has grown a spine and fought for him earlier, but the acting saved it all happening now. However, how did you feel about her blurting out her feelings about the diagnosis when Dr Clarkson was there? I felt that, despite how upset she was, that was callous.
Cora's line didn't jump out at me in the way you describe. I felt that it was more of a callback to the set-up at the beginning of the show, with three marriagable daughters. I know there was no direct mention of Sybil (although Sybbie had a cheeky moment, and Rose often felt like The Sybil Replacement with her informality with the servants), but I felt that we'd had that when Gwen came calling.
I've written more exhaustively at my journal, but it was all wrapped up in a big Christmassy bow. I would have liked a Isobel/Dickie to be a little less low-key and for Baxter/Molesley to have got a move on, but I’m so happy for Edith and Bertie.
Excellent casting for his mother, and I thought it’d have been interesting to explore the parallels between Edith-Bertie-his mother and Cora-Robert-Violet more.
I loved seeing Rose again and Mrs Patmore, Rosamund and Mrs Hughes, even though they didn’t have major storylines. Also, it felt like there was a lot of Cora appreciation. So, although the pacing was as dodgy as ever, it was a nice way to close things off.
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What jarred me is just that... I don't know, as a die-hard Thomas fan from the first moment it was hard for me not to cheer and clap him on the back so to speak. I was just so happy for him, and relieved that they'd gone that way, that I wanted for them to dwell on that topic for longer.
But of course, as a fic writer, this is a dream come true. Now I can explore and change things... there's already something of an idea forming in my head... like, the other servants' reaction to the news, or Mary's and little George's reaction...
I'll see what I can come up with :-)
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But all that would require something that Fellowes absolutely cannot abide: character development. So instead we got what was on screen.
That said, I wept through the whole thing. I loved this show and even though the storytelling is consistently clumsy and repetitive, I was given so many happy endings that I ended up being happy myself.
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Oh, come now, let's not forget the waffling over Tony and Charles...wasn't that a season and a Christmas special?
Even though I will quietly ship Isobel & the Doc forever, I am SO glad that Lord M finally grew a spine. I wished Isobel has grown a spine and fought for him earlier, but the acting saved it all happening now. However, how did you feel about her blurting out her feelings about the diagnosis when Dr Clarkson was there? I felt that, despite how upset she was, that was callous.
Cora's line didn't jump out at me in the way you describe. I felt that it was more of a callback to the set-up at the beginning of the show, with three marriagable daughters. I know there was no direct mention of Sybil (although Sybbie had a cheeky moment, and Rose often felt like The Sybil Replacement with her informality with the servants), but I felt that we'd had that when Gwen came calling.
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Excellent casting for his mother, and I thought it’d have been interesting to explore the parallels between Edith-Bertie-his mother and Cora-Robert-Violet more.
I loved seeing Rose again and Mrs Patmore, Rosamund and Mrs Hughes, even though they didn’t have major storylines. Also, it felt like there was a lot of Cora appreciation. So, although the pacing was as dodgy as ever, it was a nice way to close things off.
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