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sapphire44 November 6 2007, 12:52:17 UTC
I was aktually thinking about this the other day...When I worked in Fort Wayne, one of the families I worked with was Jehovah's Witness. They taught me a lot about what they believe, and a lot of it makes a lot of sense...and it changed the ways I thought about some things! But the loss of blood/blood transfusion thing has always made me leery. I always wondered what would've happened if the little boy's mom would've had problems in the delivery room and would've died. His dad is very capable of taking kare of him, but he would've had a really hard tyme of raising a child with autism on his own. Even though blood is seen as extremely sacred for Jehovah's Witnesses, I still think it's irresponsible for people to let mothers die in delivery rooms, "putting their lives in the hands of God", bekause miracles don't tend to happen and a child has to grow up motherless ( ... )

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silnith November 6 2007, 17:49:19 UTC
Wait, blood is sacred? Are they aware that blood only lasts a few hours at most in a body before it is replaced? It is not like a permanent change, or even a lengthy one. It is far, far more temporary than most medical procedures. Do they also object to oxygen machines or other breathing aparatuses? Do they prevent CPR? Do they allow bandages and band-aids?

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omg bible stuff sapphire44 November 7 2007, 04:11:47 UTC
sapphire44 November 7 2007, 04:14:49 UTC
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention this point that makes it a little easier to get...but not much...Those Bible scriptures seem to pretty literally point to "The soul resides in the blood".

So maybe blood transfusions would be like taking someone else's soul and putting it in your body to someone of the JW faith.

Sorry :) forgot to mention that part.

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_alsmiles_ November 6 2007, 15:54:26 UTC
I don't know much about Jehovah's Witness believers and their faith, but I think I agree with sapphire44 on this. I think that the children will have a lot of work to do within the faith to understand why they don't have a mother. Also, the family will have to rely on their faith a great deal to continue in life without the guilt many would feel from making that kind of decision. Ultimately, according to many Christian faiths, this is the goal, to become closer to God and your faith through difficult and painful decisions and experiences. I pray the family can do this, and it sounds as though their faith is very strong to begin with to be able to choose this path.

just my thoughts,
-Manda.

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_alsmiles_ November 6 2007, 16:34:48 UTC
My problem isn't with their faith. It's a hard road, certainly, and not one that I would ever choose... but if it brings them comfort and peace, I don't care if they sacrifice fluffy puppies in the name of religion.

I do care that the man came out and called it a shame that Technology couldn't save the mother.

Technology did not fail, in this scenario.

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tolisten November 6 2007, 21:50:15 UTC
His saying that technology failed seems to me that he is blaming another belief system for his troubles instead of his own. It was his belief system that says no transfusions, well fine but you can't expect the doctors to be able to save her from a hemorrhage without a transfusion. That is the way that it works. So instead of blaming his belief system for not allowing the doctors to do what is necessary he is blaming the doctors for not changing practices to acommodate his belief system. I guess I wonder what he expected the doctors to do more than what they did. Did they expect them to collect her blood and put it back into her after the hemorrhage?

I agree that he shouldn't be saying technology failed. It is like an athiest blaming God and truly believing that it is God's fault.

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silnith November 6 2007, 17:50:15 UTC
ZOMG! WARM AND PURRY KITTY!!

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sapphire44 November 7 2007, 04:23:55 UTC
Hey! Sorry I totally missed the percussion instruktors part...I know some awesome perkussionists in Ft. Wayne...There's a aktually a shit ton of great players in the area. My boy Brandon Ford is usually up for teaching (like Doug said, his livelyhood depends on it), but I'm not sure about his prices. Hell, I'm not even sure he'd be able to teach you properly for a specific ethnic style of drumming. If not, he knows most of the percussionists in the area and would be a good resource to fynd someone who does know.

http://www.brandonfordmusic.com
His contact info is under "Instruction" link

Ironically enough...Brandon's family is...Jehovah's Witness. Eerie and ironic!

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opendash November 8 2007, 22:01:51 UTC
"We can't believe she died after childbirth in this day and age, with all the technology there is."

I can respect their choice to not take a transfusion, but for them to turn around and complain that she's dead even "with all the technology there is" is stupid. Did they expect some other technology to keep her from bleeding to death without violating their beliefs? This is the risk you take for it. It's not like you can stick a stopper in her and she suddenly has enough to survive.

I feel bad for the family, but man.

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