[10] -- the laws of a state change with the changing times.

[dualfaced]

Everyone should know about recent occurrences - the kidnappings and burials. If it hasn't been stated formally one of the perpetrators has been caught. Now the complicated matter begins

Comments

[packratsawyer]

Well well, ain't that cute; y'all formin' a posse and goin' after the bad guys now? Seems to me you don't need our permission to start settin' up rules, Sheriff; you've done it already.

[dualfaced]

We're grown ups you know - tie our own shoes and everything.

This isn't about a power struggle, it's about making a difficult choice in a way that everyone can live with. So, any thoughts on the matter stranger, or would you prefer continuing with a wise crack or two? Either way it makes the time go more quickly.

[packratsawyer]

Really? Ain't gonna lie, Chief. I'm impressed.

'Course it ain't. I just happen to take an interest in people who start takin' the law into their own hands. I ain't stupid. I don't got any thoughts beside that, 'least none you'd listen to. I can stick around with the witty remarks if you want though, amigo. Got nothin' better to do with my time.

[dualfaced]

Thanks, the double loop can be tricky.

Trust me when I say I agree with you there. Unfortunately there's not much else we can do under these conditions. The man helped bury six people alive and he's killed several people in the world he's from something has to be done, for protection if nothing else.

Ideas huh? You'd be surprised, I'm a fairly receptive person - comes with the trade. Unless you're not enthralled with your ideas too much either. If you have time to exchange banter I imagine throwing a few ideas into the air wouldn't be too much trouble.

[melakafray13]

Screw the trial. Gimme five minutes alone with 'im.

[dualfaced]

I have a feeling that would only amuse him Mel.

[melakafray13]

Don't think I care much, Harv.

[dualfaced]

Thing will get a little more complicated than that if beatings are considered a justifiable form of punishment.

[misses_boring]

It seems to me that skipping straight to sentencing without formally establishing guilt sets just as dangerous a precedent as any form of punishment decided might.

ooc

[melakafray13]

If it's wrong that I imagined Sam in a suit with his hair slicked back when he said that, I don't wanna be right. ^_^

[dualfaced]

Considering we have no court system, no laws which to prosecute him by and he fully claims to have done all we accuse him of I'm sorry to say that that option would do little good. Like I said, this isn't about creating a power struggle or set group of laws, it's about how to set our reactions to these injustices and better prepare ourselves in the future. I would like nothing more than to have a true trial but for now smaller steps seem to be the best option.

[misses_boring]

I don't think a compound-wide lynch mob's really a step in the right direction. Transgressions are already punished based largely on either who committed them or who they were committed against.

[steelninja]

How do you know he's guilty? Not much has been told to the people outside of those 'interested parties'.

[dualfaced]

And I'm sorry for that. It's been a hectic few weeks if that's any excuse.

He isn't denying he was involved - in fact he's enjoying that fact quite heartily.

[steelninja]

Just pointing out that if you expect people to make a choice, facts are needed.

Do you believe that he can be kept away from everyone? Or would he still be a threat to the compound alive?

[dualfaced]

Well put, you're absolutely right. At this point I don't see why any facts would be kept hidden.

From what I understand he's managed to slip out of lock ups before. As of right now we have been able to keep him locked up. He... I strongly disagree with killing him but I'll admit as long as he is around he poses a danger.

[preventerchang]

Either operate fully above the radar, or fully below it. Pick one. You -- and the interested parties -- can't have both.

[dualfaced]

The compound needs to be aware of this, it affects everyone and the lifestyle of this place. It's not so extreme of a choice as one ultimate or the other.

[preventerchang]

Your suggested trial is merely the symptom.

If the Alliance wishes to govern this place, then there needs to be transparency. When they pick and choose the things they feel are appropriate to let others know about -- when they decide which matters should become public, and which they should hide from the knowledge of the general public -- then they will gain the trust of no one. I say this in warning, as both a supporter off the cause they represent and as an ally to several who are active members -- a known conspiracy of the self-chosen elite will lead only to further unrest, not peace.

[dualfaced]

This isn't about a power struggle - this isn't about the Alliance wanting to control anything. The Alliance and others did what they thought, what we thought was needed to help the situation. Now we're at a point where everyone should be involved and have a say as this matter affects everyone who lives here.

We have a man guilty of crimes against the compound at large. It's not the Alliance's place to decide how he should ultimately be dealt with, nor is it any other single group or entity's. I understand what you're saying but that's not the point of this and we have to be careful not to make it the point. Things are too emotionally charged to play with who holds what power.