It is awesome. As are you.- I loved reading this! Although I do think we're done with the black eyes on Dean for a while, I think all the faces he made after they bled back to green were him processing his memories of his demon-time.
And so far as monstrous goes- my favorite tweet of last night was "For anyone thinking that this is monstrous, I would lije to remind The Boys that Sam ate a nurse." Lol.
This is all wonderful and I agree with all of it EXCEPT Dean's line about Sam wanting a divorce. I actually think this is him worrying that he has driven Sam away. Because of course he didn't apologize which means he never got to hear Sam say (explicitly or not) "it's okay, I would do anything for you" and so he doesn't really know if they are okay, and he's trying to get the answer from Cas.
Oh, I agree, it's problematic. I just don't think it's problematic in the way duckondebut does. And I think worrying about Sam wanting to leave him does show some empathy, but not enough for him to, you know, act on it.
It's probably more subjective than anything, but the line still feels almost jarringly flippant to me? There was a gifset going around on my dash that compiled all the times that SamnDean were referred to in terms of a married couple, and it's usually, "you two fight like an old married couple" after a minor squabble or an argument. This line from 10x03 was used as the last gif in the set, and it was a case of, "one of these is not like the others." So, to me, Dean phrasing it that way was him trivialising what had happened and how he expected Sam to react, and it's especially awful because he remembers every single damn thing he said to the man. Connotations do matter.
(1) he remembers the kind of vicious abuse, both physical and verbal, that he threw at Sam from under the umbrella of demon-ness, and his first question is not is Sam ok? but what, the bitch wants to leave now? DID SOMEBODY SAY SHOW DOESN’T KNOW WHAT IT’S DOING?
OMG, right? "CAS YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT ME, DO YOU???"
(2) Yes, I was amazed at the contrasts to S4. Sam's actually making choices with Dean's interests in mind - not putting on a show of wringing his hands in order to keep someone else thinking of him as the good brother while behaving with a combination of sadism and negligence.
(I find this talk about how Lester was a sleazeball anyway, so Sam tricking him into a deal is not such a bad thing, to be really uncomfortable? Sam didn’t exactly now how odious Lester the MRA really was-he isn’t the master at reading people like his brother is-but even if he did, it doesn’t change the fact that he did manipulate a man when he was vulnerable.)Yeah, exactly. It was a calculated risk, it could've been a
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It’s hardly surprising that the only thing his returning ‘humanity’ did to Dean was enable him to escape the trap and try to kill his brother freely.
I actually gasped when it turned out they made Dean human for that part of the episode. I thought for sure they'd give certain parts of the audience the out of it being demon!Dean, who is nothing like Dean no sir, no how, Dean would never.
does he want a divorce?
I loved this so fucking much. SO DEAN. Hey Cas, pet me and reassure me that my terrible behaviour won't have any awful consequences for me. POOR ME.
If nothing else, I hope this experience will help him realise that the kind of vicious abuse that Dean hurled at him is pretty much an amplified version of what Dean’s been saying to him for years.I think that scene at the end of The Purge really signalled Sam no longer has Dean on a pedestal, and for the first time has really started to see the kind of person he is? (I practically want to tattoo Sam's whole 'you think you're my savior, my brother - the hero …' on my body.) So
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And Sam wants to live; he fights really, really hard to live.
True. He still had the knife in hand and lightning-fast reflexes, and I think he was ready to defend himself and maybe even kill Dean if it came down to it. While he clearly didn't want Dean to die (in fact, it was Castiel who was mirroring Dean's sentiments from 4.21, while Sam was arguing for Dean's life over Dean's perceived humanity), he definitely wasn't ready to sacrifice himself for his brother, either. Why go through the whole song-and-dance over stealing purified blood from the hospital, otherwise?
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And so far as monstrous goes- my favorite tweet of last night was "For anyone thinking that this is monstrous, I would lije to remind The Boys that Sam ate a nurse." Lol.
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Yeah, we're probably done with the black eyes, but the consequences will likely play out over the rest of the season.
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OMG, right? "CAS YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT ME, DO YOU???"
(2) Yes, I was amazed at the contrasts to S4. Sam's actually making choices with Dean's interests in mind - not putting on a show of wringing his hands in order to keep someone else thinking of him as the good brother while behaving with a combination of sadism and negligence.
(I find this talk about how Lester was a sleazeball anyway, so Sam tricking him into a deal is not such a bad thing, to be really uncomfortable? Sam didn’t exactly now how odious Lester the MRA really was-he isn’t the master at reading people like his brother is-but even if he did, it doesn’t change the fact that he did manipulate a man when he was vulnerable.)Yeah, exactly. It was a calculated risk, it could've been a ( ... )
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SO AWFUL.
anyway, high-five on your prophetic fic!
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I actually gasped when it turned out they made Dean human for that part of the episode. I thought for sure they'd give certain parts of the audience the out of it being demon!Dean, who is nothing like Dean no sir, no how, Dean would never.
does he want a divorce?
I loved this so fucking much. SO DEAN. Hey Cas, pet me and reassure me that my terrible behaviour won't have any awful consequences for me. POOR ME.
If nothing else, I hope this experience will help him realise that the kind of vicious abuse that Dean hurled at him is pretty much an amplified version of what Dean’s been saying to him for years.I think that scene at the end of The Purge really signalled Sam no longer has Dean on a pedestal, and for the first time has really started to see the kind of person he is? (I practically want to tattoo Sam's whole 'you think you're my savior, my brother - the hero …' on my body.) So ( ... )
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True. He still had the knife in hand and lightning-fast reflexes, and I think he was ready to defend himself and maybe even kill Dean if it came down to it. While he clearly didn't want Dean to die (in fact, it was Castiel who was mirroring Dean's sentiments from 4.21, while Sam was arguing for Dean's life over Dean's perceived humanity), he definitely wasn't ready to sacrifice himself for his brother, either. Why go through the whole song-and-dance over stealing purified blood from the hospital, otherwise?
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