Gay churches?

[dwarsement]

Is being gay wrong?
What about those churches that allow it?
Hmmmm....

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[lostvirtue]

My "church" says that homosexuality is fine... but I doubt you'd call it a church, since it has no doctrine (only principles and sources), and even though we have Christian members, it is not a Christian church.

I agree with you that it is odd for a by the book Christian church to accept homosexuals, it's part of the reason (well, my very large number of reasons) why I'm not a Christian.

[lostvirtue]

Oh and just to note this is my church: http://www.fusmadison.org/

[lostvirtue]

Yeah, well, I completely and utterly disagree with telling people their sexual preference (in a case where it's consenting adults) is wrong. And it isn't JUST a sexual preference it's who you love and want to be a family with.

Our Society accepts both the person/s and the lifestyle without judgment. I get the difference actually, what I find odd (but morally correct) is Christian churches that say, have openly gay priests or leaders who wear signs of their support rainbows(of which I actually approve) and the general Christian ideas taken from the Bible.. White you do have a love the sinner hate the sin concept you don't have an openly thieving paster for example who wears a name tag with a "I am currently practicing sin right now".

I don't accept the Bible as the word of God though, so it's pretty straight forward. I'm not trying to reconcile things that make no sense (and I apologize if that's sounds offensive, but I grew up in a highly religious household and spent a lot of failed time trying to do just that).

[aimlessunshine]

So let me see if I'm reading this correct. It's ok to be gay but gays are sinners and the church shouldn't recognize them as "ok"?
I may need to think about this a little more but I find this to be hypocritical. And hasn't it always been the practice of the church to teach those things that self serving? What I mean by this is they preach on the do's & don'ts of life but how many actually follow this? In the age of mega churches & pedophile priests I find it hard to believe that the church would be so self-righteous as to shun anyone.
The fact that I've yet to find a church that actually practices what it preaches it what prompted me to leave it. I grew up in the church and went to private Christian schools. I found nothing but hypocrisy and confusion.
I need to absorb this and organize my thoughts on it. Nice to meet you btw. :)

[hotfirecrotch]

Take me off your friends list.

[featherdancer]

I see that you just added me, so I began to read this entry and I have to say I partially agree.

I agree with this statement concerning the church viewing homosexuals as any other sinner, but, when you say there are certain churches that accept homosexuals and you think that they are somehow changing what the bible originally intended, I don't see how that is so.

If all sinners are equal, a person who steals is the same as a person who loves the same sex...that part I can understand. I do not know much about the other churches that openly accept homosexuals but wouldn't it just be the same as what you said about accepting sinners? because basically we are all sinners from the start. I am not very religious but I would think that a church that is accepting of homosexuals, is really the right idea because, as you said, sins are sins. They are no different from each other, as long as that person of the Christian faith asks for forgiveness for their sins.

Does that make sense?

[boyvirgil]

you are comparing "being gay" with acts of violence

[boyvirgil]

I know little about you so allow me to share this:
http://www.emersoncentral.com/divaddr.htm
one of the more important things I've read in my life, that is, it helped prepare me to keep an open mind in times that have been troubled or doubtful. I repeatedly find that in summoning the strength to break away from my assumptions and ideals that they might be questioned, I have opened myself up to being found by the greater truth, which is always new, and which rings like a bell.

[dwarsement]

read romans chapter 1.

clearly, homosexuality is wrong. thus, homosexual marriage is wrong.

[boyvirgil]

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; [6] for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so [7] that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.

call me a fool but
ASK YOURSELF
when have you known God?
what do you glorify as God and when do you give thanks?
How immediately will you drop the questions, "which" "why"
And finally, putting the intellectual game aside, WHEN will you recognize the glory of the incorruptible God

YOU