The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood discussion post

Jan 19, 2011 15:19

Okay bear with me, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood are kind of... well they are my least favourite episodes in the entirety of New Who. Sooo... yeah. I will do my best to make fair questions though.


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shinyopals January 19 2011, 20:26:12 UTC
LOL I LOVE YOUR V DIPLOMATIC EXPLANATION.

Am impressed with your srs bsns questions, though. NOW YOU CAN GO AND BE AT PEACE.

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_thirty2flavors January 19 2011, 20:29:50 UTC
lirl @ my comment below yours

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shinyopals January 19 2011, 20:31:06 UTC
APPARENTLY YOU FAIL AT BEING AT PEACE, KALI. THIS IS NOT MY FAULT.

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_thirty2flavors January 19 2011, 20:32:57 UTC
EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW MY THOUGHTS ON THESE EPISODES, CLEARLY

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_thirty2flavors January 19 2011, 20:29:37 UTC
Answering my own questions LIKE A BOSS because ugh these episodes, I need to vent my rage:

1. I don't watch Classic Who so their return was meaningless to me, and their plot was totally boring. I don't even really understand it, but there is no way I am rewatching to try and figure it out better. I cannot fathom humans and Silurians ~sharing the Earth~ so the whole political debate scene was whack, and I felt for Amy and her supreme boredom and exhaustion.

2. Omfg Ambrose was the worst, I don't know if it was the actress or the writing or both but she was so painfully unsympathetic and frustrating as a character. All the other OCs were bland, I liked the little boy solely because I like Eleven interacting with kids, and Nasreen was alright I suppose, but I was not intrigued by any of them ( ... )

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faery_fall January 19 2011, 22:42:28 UTC
6. In order to keep my brain from falling apart, I just have to think of the crack-in-the-universe plotline as evidence that the Doctor is stupid. It was VERY PLAINLY not that the people sucked up by the light were never born at all - it was AS IF they had never been born at all. Le sigh. How was I ever supposed to respect S5 with this kind of silliness running around...

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_thirty2flavors January 19 2011, 22:51:26 UTC
Yes! That tiny little semantic difference would've made the whole crack plotline like a million times more palatable to me.

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sherrilina January 20 2011, 00:57:14 UTC
Well said, and ugh I didn't even think about the character development thing...

She's chained up, go play Go Fish or something for two hours while the Doctor deals wiht this shit. Ughhhh.

Lol, true...

like really how many times can one character fake-die?

Lol, watch Supernatural, it can be a lot! :p

6. Anyway whatever I felt about Karen's acting, the erased-from-time thing totally killed it for me. The "he's part of your history so that makes it easier for you to forget him for... some... reason!" thing made no sense. If Rory literally never existed, how could Amy and the Doctor still be in the place they were? NONE OF IT WOULD'VE WORKED. But this is my big issue with the entire crack plotline and the erased-from-time thing in general. If they had just said the crack erased people from others' memories that would've been better, especially since that is what actually seems to happen -- but the Doctor says like a billion times that those people are never born at all, which... what. It bothered me in the Angel episodes, too, but ( ... )

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goldy_dollar January 19 2011, 20:51:59 UTC
LOL I saw this post go up, laughed and then thought KALI NEEDS A HUG.


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_thirty2flavors January 19 2011, 21:47:51 UTC
TY BB


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sherrilina January 20 2011, 00:51:05 UTC
Lol, these episodes...

1) I didn't realize they had appeared in Classic Who...O_o I thought the debate was kind of interesting, but the warrior chicks were hella irritating, so...

2)I liked the kid, but mostly the villagers were boring/frustrating I'd say, especially the woman who broke down and killed the warrior Silurian woman.

3) IDK, I thought it worked out well, though I could have done without Amy's catty comment about Rory being clingy because he was worried about her being sucked into the earth--I don't think it's a coincidence that she TWICE made disparaging comments about clinginess at the same time as Moffat's infamous comments about Rose...we get it Moffat, enough already! *sigh*

I did think of Doomsday a little though when he's all "hold on! Don't let go!" And thought about the Doctor remembering that all over again4) I guess it was the only logical solution without bloodshed, though I doubt it will work ( ... )

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turtle_goose January 20 2011, 05:23:50 UTC
All I have to say about these episodes is this:

It gave me "Ooh, that's fab!", a Doctor/Rory almost-high-five, and Elevenwearingshades deal with it gif.

Otherwise... THESE EPISODES... I WANT TO FORGET THEY EXIST SO HARD.

NEVER WRITE FOR WHO AGAIN, CHRIS CHIBNALL.

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