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sunspiral November 15 2006, 14:21:04 UTC
::howls of laughter::

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dani_namaste November 15 2006, 15:22:28 UTC
This is terrific! Thanks to sunspiral for pointing this out to me.

Although I have to admit, it's very rare that I end up actually resorting to tables anymore-and I spend a little bit less time troubleshooting for IE of late. But it is still the bain of my existence.

I hope you don't mind if I borrow this.

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cos November 15 2006, 20:53:48 UTC
I stubbornly insist on not using tables anymore. Maybe that increases the size of the red wedge for me. But the yellow+purple wedges still take up more than 50% of the total.

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dani_namaste November 15 2006, 21:18:06 UTC
I find for some things they're still useful-anything tabular, for example (like a calendar), definitely merits use of a table, and one of my recent projects had a couple of insane forms that worked much cleaner with tables. But I do restrict my use of tables to actual tabular data.

Doesn't mean IE doesn't completely muck it up (because it always does), but it helps me get through the day without antidepressants.

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outsidetheparty November 15 2006, 22:51:47 UTC
I still use tables, when they result in cleaner markup or need fewer browser-specific hacks than the CSS version would. (I've yet to see a reasonable equivalent for , for example.)

Maybe I'm just being lazy, but I don't really see the value of struggling to meet some formal ideal when it actually makes the product more difficult to maintain.

(I also wind up building a lot of sites that are going to be maintained by teams of corporate employees who are two or three years behind the curve; the choice between educating them or just using something they understand is a pretty easy one to make.)

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outsidetheparty November 15 2006, 16:30:33 UTC
Brilliant!

It's missing a wedge:

Time spent explaining to the client that the thing they want to include is impossible / stupid / counterproductive / not 508 compliant.

Or maybe that's the "Swearing" part.

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missionista November 16 2006, 00:47:39 UTC
I've recently discovered the joys of XHTML (took my first class just weeks ago), and this is already funny.

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dwhistler November 16 2006, 02:51:08 UTC
brilliant! And dead on.

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