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schpydurx June 10 2010, 15:57:04 UTC
First of all, the book is called Revelation NOT Revalations.

Secondly, remember the Buddhist priests that set themselves on fire during Viet Nam?

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ehowton June 10 2010, 16:17:11 UTC
Excellent point! As Caucasian males who grew up in a land untouched by war or religious persecution I would have to suggest that there are things about people and the motivations behind their acts that we don't fully grasp, due in part to the culture in which we were brought up, and the lack of breadth in our studies of foreign culture.

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schpydurx June 10 2010, 16:25:16 UTC
If you don't think that intentionally setting yourself on fire is radical, then you must also agree that blowing yourself up (suicide bombing) isn't radical either, which is antithetical to your post.

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ehowton June 10 2010, 16:48:35 UTC
I reject your leap-of-faith assumption above. The if/then statement lacks substantiative arguments. Self-immolation harms only yourself, not others. Probably why your garden-variety suicide isn't considered a terrorist act. But you're not that ignorant, so I have to wonder what's really going on here?

You argue semantics as if somehow my accidental pluralization of a word somehow changed its meaning - it didn't - and your correction proves that, so again, please feel free to speak your mind, but do so plainly.

Are you confusing political radicalism with religious extremism or is it the denotation of my specific words you wish to clarify to ensure that the acts you and I may see in radically behaving monks is indeed unprecedented enough in that culture to warrant their use? Because I can change them if that will help.

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dawaioser June 10 2010, 16:00:22 UTC
:)

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ehowton June 10 2010, 16:20:41 UTC
:)

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wardlejew June 10 2010, 18:08:12 UTC
"So what I told you was true... from a certain point of view. ... you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
-- OB1. The guy that believes in a "Hokey" Mystic religion, and uses ancient weapons.

In the end, we are all extremist. We believe extremely in what we believe , and we tend to look at everything else from our own certain point of view. So, maybe the real truth is found when you can look from ALL those certain points of view.

Some just don't care and prefer a good blaster!

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ehowton June 10 2010, 18:49:50 UTC
Ideas can transcend the labels used to bind them. I reject the notion entirely, but your extremism example fascinates me - mostly because one of the few things I do feel strongly about is active ignorance - those who seek out truths to summarily reject. As for myself, I'm still too wet-behind-the-ears to downplay my own passions concerning the importance of societal requirements.

I have a long way to go.

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wardlejew June 10 2010, 19:27:51 UTC
I really was just shooting for the blaster line, but I ended up thinking too much. And to continue on with the concept, I, too often walk around with a blaster and just blow away the ideas I don't want to deal with. I really should use a more elegant weapon and try to cut out the truth from all ideals. And now I'm confusing myself with my own analogy...

I'm not sure I understand what notion you reject entirely?

Maybe I should use my blaster on it, so I won't have to deal with it!

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ehowton June 10 2010, 19:38:15 UTC
There is something to be said for simplicity. I have to absorb new ideas slowly. Very slowly. Kinda like the saarlac.

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celtmanx June 12 2010, 06:21:41 UTC
When I talk about belief why do you always assume I'm talking about God?

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ehowton June 13 2010, 01:35:12 UTC
One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river ( ... )

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thesweetestnote June 13 2010, 01:53:53 UTC
Too bad there's no audio on this :(

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thesweetestnote June 13 2010, 01:25:11 UTC
"Finally - someone to back me up!"

I got your back!

I've always thought Buddhism and Wiccanism made more sense than "other" belief systems. And if I'm wrong...I hope Jesus doesn't slap to hard.

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ehowton June 13 2010, 01:32:44 UTC
I kinda dig how Buddhists and Wiccans don't eternally damn your soul to an everburning hellfire if you don't believe in them.

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