Strange bedfellows

Apr 13, 2007 21:03

If I lived in Central Nova or Saint-Laurent-Cartierville I would be seriously pissed off.

It certainly is undemocratic to strategically place or not place candidates in ridings for the purposes of creating political alliances. The constituents of those ridings have the right to choose who they will elect to represent them, no one else. Forcing ( Read more... )

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big_paul April 14 2007, 02:22:08 UTC
I know that the end doesn't justify the means, but geez, it's getting rid of that fucker Peter MacKay!

I'll forgive a lot in pursuit of that goal...

You remember the deal Peter MacKay made with David Orchard?(wikipedia)

In case you don't, (and don't wanna follow the link) Peter MacKay promised to re-examine the NAFTA deal (maybe think about pulling out of it...) and, more importantly, he explicitly promised no discussion of a merger with the Reform Party.

Then a little while later later, he decided to merge with the Reform Party. MacKay remains a serious force in the new party. Harper made him head-waiter, and told him to get back in the kitchen with the rest of the former tories.

If you live in Central-Nova, you've got a lot more to be pissed off about than the Dion-May deal.

Let me be crystal clear here: If MacKay had stuck to his word, Harper would not be Prime Minister right now.Being pissed off over the Dion-May deal instead of being pissed off at Peter MacKay is like standing in a burning building and blowing out a candle ( ... )

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eldr_ferd April 14 2007, 15:08:41 UTC
Except for the fact that May hasn't a chance in hell to win that riding. Yeah, I know about all of that and yeah I hate Peter MacKay too, but it's no excuse to bypass the election process. The people in Cental Nova did vote him in after all. Why are the leaders of national parties making decisions on who will be the MP of a particular riding instead of the constituents? That's my point.

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big_paul April 14 2007, 16:37:10 UTC
Well, I guess I'm of 2 minds.

On one hand, the idea of political parties working together is something we haven't really seen since Lafontaine and Baldwin formed a coalition government back in the 1840s or so, and it's something that I've been dying to see.

This may or may not actually be political parties working together, but I'll give them a chance. I heard the Executive of the Liberal Party for Central-Nova interviewed on CBC's "the house" this AM, and while someone like that will have to parrot the party line, she said she felt confident that many liberals would be working for May's campaign.

On the other hand, her stand on abortion pisses me off. From her wikipedia article: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_May#Stance_on_abortion)

In the past, May reported, she has "talked women out of having abortions". She further stated, "I would never have an abortion myself, not in a million years. I can't imagine the circumstances that ( ... )

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eldr_ferd April 14 2007, 21:17:00 UTC
Yeah it is condescending. I linked to a full transcript of May's speach on abortion in my post. The full context is even better than the quotes.

May said at said press conference that she didn't "think a woman has a frivolous right to choose." In fact she made it very clear that she only supports access to therapeutic abortions in Canda. That's when you get your sluty ass up in front of a panel of doctors and hope they approve it becaue the pregnancy is putting your health or life in danger.

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big_paul April 14 2007, 17:22:43 UTC
Forcing voters to propel party policy by denying them a candidate is W-R-O-N-G.Well, that's what Jack Layton thinks, but I'm not sure that's true. A party can choose to run whoever they want, wherever they think is appropriate ( ... )

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