Female Genital... Whatever

Feb 26, 2008 16:17

What to call it? That seems to be the problem. If you use "mutilation" as the third word, you're disrespectful against the women it has been used on, despite the fact that it is a mutilation, though only if we're talking about anything beyond removal of the clitoral hood ( Read more... )

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aphelion_orion February 26 2008, 17:37:29 UTC
First off: Word. Word word WordyMcWord.

I find this dancing around the term frankly ridiculous, myself. In my eyes, it is mutilation, even when the woman in question has been brainwashed into wanting it (because her husband will love her, because she will get a husband, because she won't shame her family, because that's a good woman's duty, etc). In my opinion, we aren't equipped with anything we don't need, save perhaps the appendix, so attempting to pass off this kind of thing as surgery is something that personally offends me. A surgery is, in my eyes, a medical necessity which is performed because a woman's (or person's) health is at risk, and equating the completely unnecessary destruction of female genitalia to something like a health risk is something I consider an affront ( ... )

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electrainverted February 26 2008, 18:02:52 UTC
Hee, hi babe. XD You got as riled up as I got, I see.

I should probably say the post that sparked this pointed out that we should use terms that those having been affected by, or live in cultures that use the various forms of FG...W uses, one of which is FGE (female genital excision, but that's just "removal" and that doesn't... encompass the dimension of "removal" that's involved in this practice. I mean, how can any word be enough to encompass the "removal", the destruction of a part, not just of genitals, but of sexuality, pleasure and enjoyment?
What I have trouble with isn't (not really) using words those women uses, but... that none of those words encompass the totality of it. Destruction. That's what it is. It's like saying that we shouldn't call a rape a "rape" because the woman who was raped doesn't, even when it was a rape. And if that's imperialistic and whatall, damn it, I can't help it, but I don't care ( ... )

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aphelion_orion February 26 2008, 18:29:05 UTC
Heh, yeah. (Dangit MSN why won't you let me log in D:).

Seriously? I don't get where they're coming from. The term FGM has nothing to do with being disrespectful to the victims (what, PC people, am I not allowed to call them victims anymore, either?), it has to do with calling the practice what it is. Jesus, that's like saying calling a blind person "blind" is disrespectful.

This is why I am at odds with this political correctness shit. Not only is it trying to act like "if you don't say it you don't mean/think it", it is also trying to soften terms which should be harsh because dammit, they are harsh and horrible and all kinds of wrong. Rape is rape, not "non-consensual sex" or "gray rape" or "oh it's not rape at all it was just forceful sex". FGM is mutilation, with all the brutality the act entails. And call me crazy, but a person really suffering from the condition, suffering from being raped or mutilated might want to have a word strong enough to express her pain and suffering.

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electrainverted February 26 2008, 19:09:44 UTC
I think that "naming it" is part of my problem, too, yes. I mean, if I cut off a person's lips and their nose and then sew the hole over the nose together and the lips too, leaving only a little hole there for liquid food, and call that as "needed" in the name of "health, beauty, ease of maintenance and 'marriageability'", it doesn't matter what anyone says, that's brutal mutilation by cutting off parts essential to a person and their view of themselves, nevermind eating and breathing (aka, bodily maintenance)!

I'm thankful male circumcision never got much of anywhere here in Europe, the thought of what all circumcised little boys have to live with... the "operation" itself... brr. Ew.

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dragonanzar June 29 2012, 08:08:51 UTC
Huh, you sound almost exactly like a mixture of two of my friends. That was a reference to 'The Genetic Opera' there, wasn't it? Surgery ( ... )

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