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Oct 16, 2004 03:28

Poll Ills

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unixronin October 16 2004, 09:53:48 UTC
I think you're missing a few troubles there. At the very least, I'd add four to the list: rampant greed, religious zealotry, politics for the sake of political power, and institutionalized corruption.

Moving on to the proposed solutions, "mandatory volunteerism" and "mandatory charity donations" are oxymorons. If "volunteering" was mandatory, you didn't volunteer, you were drafted, and if your "charitable donation" was mandatory, it wasn't a donation, it was a tax or a tithe.
And "mandatory prayer" isn't part of the solution, IMHO -- any kind of enforced religion is part of the problem. If anything, religious intolerance -- as represented by the various efforts to force everyone to comply with some people's religious beliefs, for whatever value of "some people" -- needs to be added to the "troubles" section as well. Jefferson was right on the mark in his original draft of the Virginia state constitution, with its clause mandating not only freedom of religion but freedom from religion -- he believed people should be free to ( ... )

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elvendude October 16 2004, 10:14:36 UTC
I agree, broadly, with all points here. Though I believe that the "mandatory" section was meant to be at least a touch toungue in cheek.

However, I highly agree that we needed under the Problems section something along the lines of: Too damn much religion.

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elegantelbow October 16 2004, 13:37:39 UTC
Though I believe that the "mandatory" section was meant to be at least a touch toungue in cheek.

A bit, but I'm willing to suppose that someone may choose something from that section of the list. If so, I'd like to hear what they have to say.

I wish the poll creator would've let me add more things...

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elegantelbow October 16 2004, 13:36:28 UTC
Yeah, I ran out of options. I couldn't add any more ills to the list.

There are some solutions (several) on that list that I don't consider solutions, but I wanted other people to have the option of choosing them.

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killbox October 16 2004, 12:09:14 UTC
solutions area lacks some specifics, like legalizing euthanasia, counseling, firing squads, mandatory birth-control.. culling the herd, legalizing smart-drugs.. and more..

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elegantelbow October 16 2004, 13:38:19 UTC
Yeah, I ran out of options on the poll creator.

So, do you personally think those would be good solutions?

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killbox October 16 2004, 19:17:29 UTC
yes, no, maybe.. I think something should be done, and im not to proud to say i dont know what it is that should be done, about the world, but doing nothing or the minimum is not working..

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coffegrl October 16 2004, 15:16:51 UTC
mandatory birth-control

'cause this has worked so well in other places??

How is mandatory *anything* good when it comes to someone else's reproductive rights? No, Really, I know that there are people out there that need to not breed, but making BC mandatory, is akin to making BC illegal in my mind. The entire point is that no one else has the right to make decisions about my womb.

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moonsail October 17 2004, 03:55:25 UTC
wow. this quiz didnt have nearly all of the things i think trouble things, &c, and I don't know if any really could. I think we're at a socio-political hump because of the state technology is at and the advances which have been made and can't be taken back. Weaponry, always a decisive factor in socio-political structure, is amazingly advanced these days. Technology in general I think is one area we're struggling to catch up to socio-politically ( ... )

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spider88 October 17 2004, 15:26:10 UTC

I can't belive no one said "Capitalism"! Isn't that the most popular thing to blame everything on?

I actually think humanity has fewer troubles today than it ever has, and we're all just whiners. Sex no longer kills us before we reach 30 - we have birth control, obestetrics, antibiotics, vaccines, condoms, and even AIDS drugs that keep us alive. Men no longer own women. If you're literate, your free to read whatever you can find, and if you live in a country with censorship, there are tools to evade their censoring practices. We aspire to separation of church and state, even if we sometimes fail. We know that germs, not witches, create disease. Dissent is met with ridicule, not burning at the stake.

I realize that this is not (yet) true the world over, but for those who enjoy the above, I don't know why we're so sure the world sucks.

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