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Nov 11, 2006 19:32

What constitutes bisexuality? Where do we draw the line? Are there lines to draw ( Read more... )

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tragic_stiletto November 11 2006, 21:03:19 UTC
Well it'd be daft to say you have to have done 'it'. As it were. Because that's like saying all virgins are asexual, or something. I believe I have stolen that point. Hehe.

If you're confused, then just don't label people anything... Kiss anyone and everyone you want to. I may like kissing skeletal freaks best but I also like to keep various options (both mint and orange) open so there's no point in limiting yourself (jesus!).

Live, be anything! Hippy, yay! You don't know how much I want to run away right now. Mental! x

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elegiacstanzas November 12 2006, 19:13:13 UTC
I'm not confused personally, merely pondering life and it's intricacies you know... Personally I'll live however I feel to live, without fear of what anyone else might say. I just wondered what others think about such things. If you get me..?

I was about to text you and say Im online but it appears o2 isnt working and i have left the UK phone behind me. x

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artistic_vices November 11 2006, 21:29:41 UTC
I can't abide labels, and that is all I know.

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oldwallpaper November 11 2006, 21:52:36 UTC
Is a homosexually-identified person any less homosexual because he/she hasn't had same-sex experience yet? Certianly not. As far as I'm concerned I've been bisexual my whole life, whether or not I've always 1)been acutely aware of it or 2)acted upon it.
In fact I think everybody is bisexual, inasfar as we have the ability to act upon desires we've never told anybody, or those desires we're barely even aware of. Whether we act on those desires or not is a matter of socialisation (ie how scared are you of fear tactics used by the heterosexual majority??).
Plus, bisexuality doesn't necessarily mean that you like men 50% and women 50% - you could like men 99% and women 1% for example. Bisexuality is famously inclusive and is a major theme in feminist writing. See the wiki article on Kinsey for a better explanation than I could give you.

'I only fancy men' isn't quite as serious as 'I only fancy white men', I think. The first is a sexual preference and doesn't directly disadvantage others. The second is at best close-minded and at worst

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elegiacstanzas November 12 2006, 19:10:38 UTC
But what if it is merely a matter of taste? It may not be politically correct as a statement, but for example if someone is only drawn to burly, 6 foot something body builders with tans and no hair, then it is true in their exprience that they only fancy tall men with muscles. So apart from taboo and p.c.'ness is it really wrong for them to state it as such? They're not saying all skinny white librarian types with floppy hair should go to hell or get out of the country, just that they are not drawn to them. You know?

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oldwallpaper November 12 2006, 21:42:11 UTC
I'm not being pc about it, though. Ireland is, despite recent surges of immigrancy, a very shut-in, white place to live.

If you're saying that liking only white men is a matter of taste and not inexperience with meeting people of other skin colours, then you must be referring to the actual colour of their skin. Is organising romantic preferences by colour(or body stereotypes which are damaging to both sexes) a very sophisticated way of using one's mind? I don't think so.

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elegiacstanzas November 12 2006, 23:01:59 UTC
I'm not talking about sophistication though. The fact is that we are all attracted to certain characteristics in people and alot of them happen to be physical. The difference between a physical attraction and a meeting of minds. And proportionately if somebody tended towards a certain type of character then saying so, doesnt mean they are discounting everyone else, merely stating a preference. You might like to eat ice-cream but if that was all you ate you'd get pretty sick pretty fast, you still like it better than a tomato though.

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charlybubbles November 12 2006, 03:31:03 UTC
Sexuality is a big old mess, basically. All I can suggest is that, if you feel you might like somebody, you probably do, regardless of their gender. It's way more complicated than that, and I'm still unsure that any fixed identity term, including bisexuality, is particularly helpful, but hey.

What I believe, for what it's worth, is that everyone is born pretty much a blank slate, in sexual terms. Most end up heterosexual, cos it's the obvious way to go. Some end up homosexual, cos if you feel that strongly about the same sex when you're a teenager, you're most likely going to want some form of vaguely accepted fixed identity - however socially contested. And some of us fall down the gap.

I think we just have to get on with it, really.
a.x

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elegiacstanzas November 12 2006, 23:10:01 UTC
I suppose it was more theoretical than personal curiosity... if you understand? I mean on a personal level i couldnt care less about tags and labels and who wants who and why and blah. I've long since stopped giving a damn about other people's negative perspectives. The whole thing just interests me quite a bit on a theoretical level. Then again many things interest me theoretically... it's the actuality that never quite adds up. E x.

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