polls narrow the gap?

Sep 30, 2008 16:06

An interesting Georgia poll came out today, one that somewhat confirms another, very biased poll that was out yesterday. It also raises some questions on the national level.

Yesterday's poll came from the Jim Martin (D) senate campaign and put incumbent Saxby Chambliss (R) up by just three points, 37-34 with 26% undecided. Most scoffed at the idea ( Read more... )

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galbinus_caeli September 30 2008, 20:18:46 UTC
Yes, the trend is pretty much nationwide. McCain is losing ground just about everywhere.
Real Clear Politics is great for obsessing over tracking the polls. The third table on this page is especially telling. Notice how every state that is changing is changing in an Obamaward direction. Trends are all away from McCain. Some like Florida are ridiculously steep.

I repeat, John McCain is going down like panties on prom night.

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elemess September 30 2008, 21:40:01 UTC
Looks like Dole is getting hammered. She went from up 8 to down 8 in three weeks.

Even McConnell took a big hit.

But I need to see new polls in places like Louisiana, where a Dem is the (Senate) incumbent, to see if the trend is centered on one party or on incumbents in general.

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galbinus_caeli September 30 2008, 21:56:40 UTC
Either RCP isn't tracking those polls, or no national agency is running polls in Louisiannathere. Either is possible.

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elemess October 1 2008, 22:39:40 UTC
I don't think anyone thinks LA is really in play for the Senate, so why bother spending the money on polling? I bet somebody's doing some polling now, though. Political Insider is reporting that Goddard is doing some polling now here in the GA-08 against Marshall.

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kenboy October 1 2008, 00:11:08 UTC
http://www.surveyusa.com/electionpolls.aspx

Take a look at the tracking graph for men, and then the one for women, on the Georgia poll you already linked (go to the crosstab page, then click the "1/T" icon, then choose "men" from the pull-down menu near the top left), and then look at the same thing in Florida and Ohio at the above link. (Really, look at lots, but those two states in particular caught my eye.)

What I find really interesting is that, to my eye, after the Palin pick and the RNC, McCain surged with men -- she didn't seem to impress women that much -- and now, in these most recent polls in these most critical states, SOMETHING has happened to make men change course.

No way to really tell which one thing it is, if it actually is just one thing -- but my gut tells me it's the Katie Couric interview.

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elemess October 1 2008, 17:00:21 UTC
It's the Charmed effect. Guys will look at pretty women for any reason, but if they start spouting nonsense, we'll turn off even Alyssa Milano and Rose McGowan. And Shannen Doherty and Holly Marie Combs. Palin lasted longer because of her accent. Accents are hot.

It's really about information. Women's reaction to Palin was more visceral one way or the other and less likely to change. Men were more willing to give her a chance (yes, partly because she's attractive), but now that she's been around long enough to screw up a few interviews (the only interviews she's given) the shine is starting to dull, and now men are starting to question McCain's judgment in choosing her.

That's if it's all about Palin. I think she plays a huge role in this campaign just because of what she represents. Now that the economy has tanked, people are going to look at the candidates' actions in response; so far, McCain looks like he panicked, perhaps like he did in picking Palin.

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just an FYI elemess October 1 2008, 19:23:48 UTC
Erick Erickson, who runs the national redstate.org, also has a Georgia based blog called Peach Pundit. It also leans to the right, but there are a few Dems and Libertarians on there. He questioned whether the SUSA poll was any good because it polled on a Sunday. Apparently, polls in the South conducted on weekends trend Democratic. I guess Democrats don't go to church.

ETA: Here's an earlier thread on the same poll, started by a Democrat.

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Re: just an FYI kenboy October 1 2008, 21:26:14 UTC
Of course, the previous poll also included a Sunday (it was Sun/Mon/Tues, this one was just Sun/Mon), but no one wants to mention that.

It's a complaint that does come up every now and then; I don't think there's much to it. While I'm sure there are some people who leave the house for church first thing in the morning and don't come back until late at night, I think church for most people is a portion of their day, which also includes going out to breakfast or lunch, watching football on TV at home, and having dinner with their families.

If I get time, I'll do some day-by-day breakdowns, though it gets complicated because then we're looking at raw, as opposed to weighted, data.

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