Comments | elfwreck: Anti-Fanfic Bingo, Round 2, part 1

elfwreck

Anti-Fanfic Bingo, Round 2, part 1

Dec 29, 2007 21:13

These don't easily cohese in my mind the way the first set did. I think I'm going to take them on in reverse order.

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stasia December 30 2007, 05:25:58 UTC

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For some reason, now I want to read that story about Queen Furry and Her Magickal Powahs of Lurve.

Save me.

And this is brilliant! Thank you for being so clearheaded about it.

Stasia

elfwreck December 30 2007, 05:55:15 UTC

I keep running into that problem: there is no fic premise so cracktastic that it doesn't make me say, "yeah, I wanna read that one."

I remember coming up with some godsawful plotbunny about a zombie!Snape and top!Draco non-con bondfic (someone was bemoaning that some random stranger wanted story advice, and I suggested she tell the stranger to write this one), and then realized that I wanted to find out if I could write it.

It goes on the back-burner behind all the projects I've actually started.

stasia December 30 2007, 05:59:10 UTC

*groans*

My husband (*sporks him*) keeps threatening to write zombie porn. I don't think I can get him to write it as top!Draco non-con bondfic, but ... if he does it, do you want to read it?

There's something so seductive about bad!fic, isn't there?

Stasia

elfwreck December 30 2007, 08:27:13 UTC

Oh, I definitely would want to read zombie!snape. With or without noncon bondfic aspects. (The story idea I had also had Snape as secretly being Draco's father. The author who was looking for advice said she wanted "more angst," and I figured incestuous forced bondfic was a great start for angst.)

alchemia December 30 2007, 06:37:32 UTC

hell yeah!

saralogan December 30 2007, 07:27:15 UTC

I would be flattered if I ever became prolific enough to inspire fanfiction. Even pervy fanfiction. I had this discussion with my writing group during NaNoWriMo, and most of us were okay with pervy fic (and even wrote pervy fic ourselves) while one was okay with fanfiction if it was just 'expanding on a world I created' but would lay the smackdown on porn. We're fighting about fic right now and I am totally winning bingo. She's using the "YOU ARE RAEPING MY CHARACTERS PLZ STOP" logic on me, which made me LOL pretty hard.

component December 30 2007, 19:28:45 UTC

"Think about that one a bit before you jump out in favor of fanfic. Think of how you'd feel, finding your name-or your kids' names-used in the midst of some bizarre drug-induced backstage orgy sequence."

I know exactly how this feels, but fortunately it hasn't left a sour taste in my mouth. Someone once created a parody journal of mine, took all my entries and completely rewrote every single one into a sexual fantasy. Of course this wasn't meant for the persons own personal entertainment or for the sake of just writing something. They intentionally did it to harass me. The person got suspended for impersonation and harassment of course because I reported them.

The kind of fic you are talking about though isn't out of spite. It's out of love for a certain character and wanting to alter their universe because that makes you and others love them more. The person who did this to me did it out of spite. So I believe it's more the person's intention you'd have to look at, not what the characters are doingIf someone took all my ( ... )

kaizoku December 30 2007, 20:51:13 UTC

The kind of fic you are talking about though isn't out of spite. It's out of love for a certain character and wanting to alter their universe because that makes you and others love them more. The person who did this to me did it out of spite. So I believe it's more the person's intention you'd have to look at, not what the characters are doing.Hmm, I don't think this always holds water. I read a story recently in which a sports star (who is a real person) is raped by fictional characters. It was a humorous story but it was also definitely written out of dislike for the sports star and a sense of exacting metaphorical revenge. Of course, the author knows that they're writing about the real person *as a character* - they obviously don't want him to be raped in real life. So, I agree that it is about the intention of the writer, but not necessarily their feelings about the subject ( ... )

elfwreck December 31 2007, 05:07:07 UTC

I'm not a public figure in the way that a sports star is a public figure.

Not at the moment, no. But if you write lots of fic, you could get ficced yourself... I've seen crackfic involving JKR being harassed by her characters, and some that involves fanfic writers being chased around by plotbunnies (and favorite slash characters with erect penises, saying "You stupid Muggle bitch, you created this--GET ME LAID, dammit!")

And while there's an "all in good fun" atmosphere about it, it can also turn vicious when the wank-wars kick in.

And I believe most fanficcers could deal with it--are willing to accept the possibility of being ficced, or whatever similar weirdness might get aimed at them. But it's not as blasé and simple as we sometimes like to make it sound; there's an uncomfortableness that we've decided to come to terms with.

kaizoku December 31 2007, 17:32:05 UTC

But it's not as blasé and simple as we sometimes like to make it sound; there's an uncomfortableness that we've decided to come to terms with.

I agree. And thinking about that definitely does make me more sensitive to how people might feel to find RPF of themselves. I do think that if you put something about yourself on the internet, you are giving anyone and everyone the right to use that information. But there's some information (e.g. home address) that I don't think should be put in a story no matter whether it's about a fanfic writer or a famous author. But that depends too - if I'm a famous author, I'm more likely to expect and be able to take precautions if that happens.

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elaere December 31 2007, 09:48:46 UTC

I comment on your Fic me! Fic me! Fic me! text ( ... )

elfwreck December 31 2007, 16:03:56 UTC

I am more in favor of fanfic than I probably sound. I would be thrilled if people made fanworks based on my writings (or filksongs, or whatver), even if what they made was atrocious or tacky or, very likely, if it were hateful.

I am pro-fic all the way; pro-slash, pro-crackfic, pro-tacky sporkable emo teen Mary Sue fic. I'm also aware that, being someone who slashes normally inanimate objects, I'm weird, and my reasons aren't going to be the ones fandom can present to mainstream questioners ( ... )

elaere December 31 2007, 18:31:45 UTC

You got your pro-fanficness across to me pretty well; don't worry about that. That quote from Voltaire sums my thoughts, too, perfectly. I might disagree with something a person says, I might even fight over it, but I wouldn't make it my right to tell the person what to say and what not. Of course I might also disagree with the usage of language or any other semiotic system the person is using. But, at the ground level, I support the right to make messages ( ... )