Bite-size meta: Looking (observing/perceiving) vs mirroring

Apr 29, 2017 13:03

Thoughts on 'The Pilot' and 'Smile', whilst also looking back to Clara.

Bite-size meta: Looking vs mirroring )

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cynthia2015 April 29 2017, 12:23:39 UTC

This is all very psychological.

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elisi April 29 2017, 12:32:18 UTC
MIRRORS!!

And yes. I love delving down and working out what lies beneath...

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cynthia2015 April 29 2017, 13:09:11 UTC

Speaking from experience.

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elisi April 29 2017, 13:10:13 UTC
Ahhh. Yes, not quite on the ball there.

Although it's a lot easier to analyse fictional characters than people in RL.

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flowsoffire April 29 2017, 12:30:58 UTC
Lovely thoughts :)

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elisi April 29 2017, 12:32:35 UTC
Thank you! :)

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ragnarok_08 April 29 2017, 16:22:18 UTC
You've given me a lot to think about :)

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elisi April 29 2017, 16:39:02 UTC
Then I have done my job! :)

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ever_neutral April 30 2017, 11:22:04 UTC
So far this season is being made just for me. Blessed.

Obviously one could level the same accusation at the Doctor - what will Bill become if she travels with him?

Touche.

Because Clara was a mirror, right from the start, and that was both her strength and her downfall. She mirrored the Doctor back to him to such an extent that they were caught in an eternal feedback-loop, which had to be severed for the good of both of them.

THIS PAIN IS JUST TOO REAL…......

Also, the Doctor mindwiping/resetting the emoji bots in order for everyone to move on from their grief... No further comment.

Ghosts of seasons past truly are haunting this season. Just saw "Thin Ice" -- what a throwback! o.O

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elisi May 1 2017, 13:31:43 UTC
So far this season is being made just for me. Blessed.
It's amazing when that happens!!

Touche.
Thankfully, he seems very aware of this.

THIS PAIN IS JUST TOO REAL…......
I KNOW!

Also, the Doctor mindwiping/resetting the emoji bots in order for everyone to move on from their grief... No further comment.
Aye. If he could have mindwiped the people too, I'm sure he would have... (Maybe he's not learned All The Lessons. Even if Bill made him check himself at the end of The Pilot.)

Ghosts of seasons past truly are haunting this season. Just saw "Thin Ice" -- what a throwback! o.O
♥ Thoughts hopefully coming soon...

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ext_4082182 May 2 2017, 11:28:32 UTC
Aye. If he could have mindwiped the people too, I'm sure he would have... (Maybe he's not learned All The Lessons. Even if Bill made him check himself at the end of The Pilot.)
Just occurred to me how much Me's continual forgetting of her past is a good compare/contrast to the Doctor's forgetting of Clara. It was an interesting compare/contrast to the Doctor's methods of dealing with his own extensive memories even before that--he admits he has to put old memories away and move on most of the time, but he does have them whereas Ashildr has to go back to her diaries to know her own past. And we see the advantages and disadvantages of each one's coping mechanism. But to what extent is the Doctor's memory of Clara like Ashildr's 'memory' of the people from her past?: knowing the shape they made in her life but not the person.

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elisi May 2 2017, 18:55:42 UTC
But to what extent is the Doctor's memory of Clara like Ashildr's 'memory' of the people from her past?: knowing the shape they made in her life but not the person.
Oh very good. Yes. And Ashildr as a Doctor mirror really makes much more sense.

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sea_thoughts May 2 2017, 18:50:24 UTC
the Doctor got the ‘reboot’ (/memory wipe) like the emoji bots to allow him to get back on track, and Clara took off on her own to keep seeing the universe like Heather.

Wow. It's true. His brain was switched off and then on again.

Which is a roundabout way of saying that Clara’s narrative and ending very quietly haunts the new series.

Like an echo? :)

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elisi May 2 2017, 18:54:33 UTC
Wow. It's true. His brain was switched off and then on again.
It's funny, because the ending doesn't fit very well with the rest of the story. But it fits well with the THEMES.

Like an echo? :)
Ooooh. I see what you did there!

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