Twice Upon a Time

Jan 27, 2018 15:31

I realise it's been more than a month, and this is... Well, it is what it is. It was a lovely, lovely episode, but rounding up the end of an era is hard. So this isn't that, it's just a heap of scattered thoughts strung together. I will also post a take that is all poetry, but this one is probably better for talking about. :)

Twice Upon A Time )

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Oh boy, oh boy anonymous January 27 2018, 19:36:20 UTC
Well, damn. Screw my exams.

However, since I do want to do this properly, I will still take a few days. I hope you don't mind.

"What do we say to the god of homework?"
"Not today!"

(I recently had a haircut and a friend commented that I look like a '50s kid. Yeah, I do, a bit. But the title stands).

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Re: Oh boy, oh boy elisi January 27 2018, 20:00:12 UTC
No no no, exams are important! Focus on exams!

I took a MONTH to write this, and it's only scratching the surface in a very cursory way, literally hammering out all the points in a very rudimentary fashion without any elegance whatsoever. I am sure you have a million things to add - because you are great that way - but don't attribute greatness to this.

So exams/homework first, then meta.

*does Clara bossy face*

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Re: Oh boy, oh boy anonymous January 27 2018, 21:20:03 UTC
Yessir, Ms Clara, sir! (salutes) Absolutelynoproblematallsir!

(Hey, she's a tiny, adorable badass, don't judge me.)

But it's morphology! And it's the last one, the last before I graduate! It's so ungodly boring, I can feel my brain cells dying. Moby Dick ain't got nothing on this.

Aww, don't worry, I'm kidding. I see this as the obligatory Temptation Scene/Leave Your Quest Test. For good or for ill, my attempts to not Do The Right Thing And Study always go about as well as poor Eleven trying to leave in Closing Time. We're still on the fence: is it OCD or OCPD? The doctors have yet to agree ( ... )

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Re: Oh boy, oh boy elisi January 28 2018, 08:09:36 UTC
(Hey, she's a tiny, adorable badass, don't judge me.)
As i am probably old enough to be your mother, I'd rather pull the Clara card than the mothering card. ;)

But it's morphology! And it's the last one, the last before I graduate! It's so ungodly boring, I can feel my brain cells dying. Moby Dick ain't got nothing on this.
I didn't even know that was a thing! Looks fascinating, but I can see why it might not be a particularly fun thing to study in depth.

Aww, don't worry, I'm kidding. I see this as the obligatory Temptation Scene/Leave Your Quest Test.
Tahani walking down the corridor (if you are watching The Good Place? If not, trust me it is an apt example).

Anyway, I just took another exam yesterday, today I rest. So no worries.
Rest is important. Hope you had a nice & quiet day.

The main problem is that even though I do have free time, I don't want to rush it, and I tend to get carried away. So yeah, if you don't mind/enjoy my million added things, I hope you will be patient ;)
I posses much patience my young padawan.

You ( ... )

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ever_neutral January 27 2018, 20:08:53 UTC
Our new Doctor is a woman, and this episode is an opportunity to take stock at how far we have all come - both the show itself, and as a society.

Great point. I was one of those who found the sexism jokes a bit too on-the-nose, but I’ll take your word for it about the verbatim lines…

Moffat, in this interview talks about how falling in love makes us fully human - how we are now more than ourselves, we are ‘the one who loves such-and-such, and is loved by them’. .. ASHILDR: And how many have you lost? How many Claras?


... )

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elisi January 27 2018, 20:22:53 UTC
Great point. I was one of those who found the sexism jokes a bit too on-the-nose, but I’ll take your word for it about the verbatim lines…
Moffat - somewhere - talked about it, and said how he loves the old show, but winces a lot when watching. Not that it wasn;t ground breaking in many ways, but Companions who were cast to 'appeal to the dads', running around in high heels and short skirts... (and did their damnedest, all hail!). It was a different time.

/obligatory Clara reaction
♥ ♥ ♥ The Clara part is woe-fully underwritten, but it's like... there is SO MUCH CLARA. I don't know where to start.

Beauteous.
It really is, isn't it?

Listen... don't you think it's time to apply for a position on the Who writing team. Think on it.
There is a big difference between writing meta & writing TV scripts. Especially Doctor Who scripts which are notoriously difficult. However, Owls, Proton & I were talking about writing a book about Dr Why & The Waste Land (like I said - brief poetry post still to come).

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sea_thoughts January 27 2018, 20:53:20 UTC
There's an unclosed tag somewhere.

Twelve even said to Clara "Immortality isn't living forever. That's not what it feels like. Immortality is everybody else dying." The sad irony is in that very episode, he then visited this very fate on Ashildr because he couldn't bear to lose someone else yet abandoned Ashildr because he couldn't face what he had done.

His refusal to accept the loss of Clara led to Hell Bent, where he actually plucks her out of time (although Clara is also scattered throughout time and space, she never stops being Schroedinger's Companion), forcing Clara to let him go for a second time and take away her memory so he will be able to move on from his grief ( ... )

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elisi January 27 2018, 21:39:26 UTC
There's an unclosed tag somewhere.
Yes, I just noticed. (Weirdly enough didn't show up on DreamWidth...)

Twelve even said to Clara "Immortality isn't living forever. That's not what it feels like. Immortality is everybody else dying."
I so very almost used that line! (Probably would have if I'd done this in more depth...)

Yet in this episode, he was able to save two strangers from a messy, cold death. He was given proof that Bill and Nardole weren't dead because their memories were alive and they would never be gone as long as the Doctor remembered them. It wasn't all for nothing.
This. 'Nothing is ever forgotten, not completely. And if something can be remembered, it can come back.'

And then finally, just as Clara's memory saved Bill from being mind wiped, Bill's memory gave Clara back to the Doctor.
I love how circular that is! <3

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sea_thoughts January 31 2018, 23:26:09 UTC
The cyclical nature of Moff's storytelling is one of the things I love best about his writing. I'll miss him.

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elisi February 1 2018, 19:44:09 UTC
Yeah, I'm not sure what I'll do without it. Circles are... my thing.

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flowsoffire January 27 2018, 21:00:47 UTC
Lovely insights! Thank you :)

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elisi January 27 2018, 21:40:12 UTC
Thank you. ♥

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ragnarok_08 January 28 2018, 01:26:36 UTC
This was fantastic to read!

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elisi January 28 2018, 07:44:04 UTC
Thank you! ♥

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