On GoT, Doctor Who and character development

[elisi]

So, watching fandoms implode from afar is a lot more entertaining (and considerably less scarring) than when personally invested. So, I've been reading a lot about GoT - everything from 'It's only a TV show, get over yourself' to 'I called it back in S1, ha!' to 'Everything is ruined'.

However, it's all been making me think...

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[a_phoenixdragon]

Yeah, if they created this dilemma and shocking event, then left out the build up/journey bits...they've blown it for sure.

[elisi]

Lots of long discussions on the Dreamwidth side if you want a deeper take. But yeah, people are very cross. And it mostly seems to be down to rushing. :(

[sea_thoughts]

This is where a lot of people have also pointed out that 'Foreshadowing isn't character development'.

Indeed. Foreshadowing is like showing you a point on the map. Character development is how you actually GET there. Plopping someone down there with no preparation is not the same.

If he hadn't lost it, we would have been surprised. The build-up was very well done, and when he finally cracked it was almost cathartic.

Indeed, it just went on for so very, very long. ;)\

No matter what women told themselves, Game of Thrones was never our story.

As one of my Tumblr friends put it: "Why would we expect a show that’s absolutely gloried in the objectification of women’s bodies to be respectful to female characters? Guy who write like this don’t get or respect women as anything other than titillation." (link)

in case the oppressed masses do not rise up and create an anarcho-syndicalist commune (as per Monty Python and the Holy Grail) I hope Sansa becomes queenThat would be interesting because Sansa has never been interested in the Iron

[elisi]

Indeed. Foreshadowing is like showing you a point on the map. Character development is how you actually GET there. Plopping someone down there with no preparation is not the same.
Apparently they just rushed it (presumably from being exhausted at having done nothing else for YEARS). Which is a shame. Also, it was generally seen as impossible to recreate on screen, so... maybe it would always end in tears?

Indeed, it just went on for so very, very long. ;)\
*snerk* SO RONERY!

As one of my Tumblr friends put it: "Why would we expect a show that’s absolutely gloried in the objectification of women’s bodies to be respectful to female characters? Guy who write like this don’t get or respect women as anything other than titillation."
Yeah there was a Tumblr post (possibly linked in one of the essays?) that listed all the Dead Women/mothers and the way they were treated. (Unlike dead Fathers who we often were told a lot about.) So yeah, not a surprise really.

That would be interesting because Sansa has never been interested in the Iron