DW 5.06. Vampires in Venice. Episode thoughts + meta on Doctor/Amy/Rory.

[elisi]

This is late, but I got there. Written in rather a hurry though, so I hope you won't mind if sometimes I've not managed to put my thoughts across as clearly as I could have wished.

Comments

[ladypeyton]

I've only seen about three quarters of the show, but I adore the Doctor/Amy/Rory relationship and I'm ecstatic to learn that Rory will be along for the ride for a while.

I pretty much agree with everything you've said here. I see a little similarity between Ten and Eleven, most of it physical, but Eleven is definitely his own person and the way he's carrying his age is a huge part of his difference.

I'm extremely intrigued by the cracks subplot. Kind of like the wolf and the 4 thumps were used as over all arcs in previous seasons' I'm dying to see what these cracks in reality end up being. Dimensional cracks? I think that the scene between the Doctor and Rory where they discuss the Tardis being extra-dimensional is more relevant than simply explaining how it's bigger on the inside.

I love how perceptive Rory is. He was the one who figured out that something weird was going on in his ward in the first episode of the season. He already understood about extra-dimensional space. He's going to be extremely useful in the future.

[elisi]

I adore the Doctor/Amy/Rory relationship and I'm ecstatic to learn that Rory will be along for the ride for a while.
I adore it when there's more than one companion, and the dynamic of these three is just brilliant! :)

I pretty much agree with everything you've said here.
*beams*

I see a little similarity between Ten and Eleven, most of it physical, but Eleven is definitely his own person and the way he's carrying his age is a huge part of his difference.
*nods* I love it to distraction. :)

I'm extremely intrigued by the cracks subplot.
Oh me too! And apparently there are little clues all over the place - things that will be important later (no ducks in the duck pond!) and I have no idea what they're going to do!

I think that the scene between the Doctor and Rory where they discuss the Tardis being extra-dimensional is more relevant than simply explaining how it's bigger on the inside.
This! I loved that, and it made me change the way I think about the TARDIS, which is quite something.

I love how perceptive Rory is. He was the

[penny_lane_42]

I think I was a bit let down by this episode because I expected there to be more exploration of Amy and Rory's relationship and I was thrown because it was more from Rory's POV than anyone's (although I do like seeing things from Rory's perspective, it wasn't what I thought it would be, so I was going, "Huh?"). But the version I watched didn't have the preview for next week (I don't think? I don't remember it), so if you say it's gonna happen next time, I'll hold my horses. :D

I do adore your thoughts on the tension between youth/age. That's very insightful. And even though I feel like the love triangle thing was done to death with Rose and Mickey it looks there's gonna be a different spin on it this time and I do like Rory (I liked Mickey, too, but I didn't always like the writing for him).

The setting this time was loads of fun, and so was Rosanna.

[elisi]

I think I was a bit let down by this episode because I expected there to be more exploration of Amy and Rory's relationship and I was thrown because it was more from Rory's POV than anyone's (although I do like seeing things from Rory's perspective, it wasn't what I thought it would be, so I was going, "Huh?").
See this is where being me is very handy. I know I'm weird in this, but I generally don't have any expectations when I watch things - or rather, I expect to be entertained, and with DW I hope for some good character moments, some continuity and hopefully a story without too many plotholes. Of course there are things I'd love to see happen, but I never presume that the story will go in that direction - although when it does, I'm thrilled. Maybe it's some kind of subconscious way of shielding myself from disappointment? Whatever the case, it makes me a very easy viewer.

But the version I watched didn't have the preview for next week (I don't think? I don't remember it), so if you say it's gonna happen next time, I'll hold my

[joking]

I must chime in with love for the Doctor/Rosanna moments - there was this chilling combination between the Doctor's menace and the strange chemistry between them. He's showing her that he's a threat, but there's still that pull. Then we get the great line "You didn't know Isabella's name."

[elisi]

I must chime in with love for the Doctor/Rosanna moments - there was this chilling combination between the Doctor's menace and the strange chemistry between them. He's showing her that he's a threat, but there's still that pull.
Yes exactly. The Doctor *really* likes [older] powerful women...

Then we get the great line "You didn't know Isabella's name."
Oh yes - and you just reminded me of something I forgot! I was going to mention how much I love the fact that the Doctor refuses to play the numbers game ('One city to save a whole species...') He will - if pushed far enough - do it (see EoT f.ex.), but on the whole he utterly refuses. Because everyone matters. Everyone has a name.

[goldenusagi]

I LOVED the scene with the cake. And as a casual viewer, this was the first episode with Eleven that I found myself really, really liking, instead of just watching. There were quite a few eps with Ten I really, really liked.

[elisi]

I LOVED the scene with the cake.
Usually I *hate* 'embarrassing' humour, but this wasn't, because the Doctor was just... himself. (And I'm wondering WHY he decided to burst out of a cake, but well he's an alien. I'm sure it made sense to him!) *g*

And as a casual viewer, this was the first episode with Eleven that I found myself really, really liking, instead of just watching.
Oh that pleases me immensely! The fans will watch and complain/squee, but it's the casual viewers that really determine whether something works. :)

[gamiila]

Oh wow! I think you've just explained to me why I love this new series and especially this new Doctor and his relationship with his new companions so much. I never could have put in into words as clearly as you, though, so thank you.

[elisi]

Oh wow! I think you've just explained to me why I love this new series and especially this new Doctor and his relationship with his new companions so much.
Really? *is very pleased* Also I am pleased you like them, of course. It's fascinating to see who likes the new series, and who doesn't - and how that overlaps with the Ten fans. :)

I never could have put in into words as clearly as you, though, so thank you.
My pleasure. I just... ramble. It's a thing. I'm just glad that it ends up making sense!