Meta: Seeing EoT with new eyes (because RTD cut out THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!)

Jun 24, 2012 21:42

So, in my Time Lord Victorious meta, topaz_eyes posted a bit of cut dialogue from End of Time. It’s just a few lines from Wilf and the Doctor’s chat up in the Vinvocci spaceship, but it has completely overthrown my entire reading of the episode. Everything - OK, not everything, but the Doctor’s arc - suddenly makes sense in ways it didn’t before, and I feel ( Read more... )

ten is meta catnip, whoniversal meta

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rahirah June 24 2012, 20:58:36 UTC
:considers:

Nope, still don't like Ten. Sorry. *g*

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elisi June 24 2012, 21:05:00 UTC
Oh you don't have to LIKE him. He's a selfish, self-righteous, self-pitying, un-Doctor-y broken ball of man!pain, and it's not a pretty or a likeable sight. But at least he's honest about it (and he is consistent), and that's all I wanted. (It's like... there's the DOCTOR [1-9 & 11] and then waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there there's Ten, going mad and thinking that he's maybe god. Gives me a headache if I think about it too much.)

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paratti June 24 2012, 21:43:40 UTC
That line was perfect.

Misses it.

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elisi June 25 2012, 05:50:03 UTC
It would have made SUCH a difference... *sighs*

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paratti June 25 2012, 09:18:14 UTC
And opens up the Master's backstory so much.
Wibble.

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elisi June 25 2012, 16:56:01 UTC
Mmmmm, very true. Hadn't really thought of that, but yes. And it fits because the Master has always wanted survival above everything, and showing how that might have come about through the Doctor - just beautiful.

(You've read the naming of things, right? Summary: How to become the Master. It is the origin fic.)

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a_phoenixdragon June 24 2012, 22:59:12 UTC
I love you...

The way you can take the tangle of emotions and thoughts and make them obvious and...

I should probably stop here. Should have seen the rambly mess I made over at Prometheia's DreamWidth. Oh my gods...I'm just - unable to think, yet you do it for me and it is beautiful and brilliant.

Thank you.

*HUGS*

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elisi June 25 2012, 05:51:00 UTC
Hey, your comment over there was good and v. insightful!

Anyways, am happy I made sense. :)

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a_phoenixdragon June 25 2012, 08:04:06 UTC
LOL...messy, sprawling, horrid and completely missing the point while getting to the same point elsewhere, you mean, lol!!

You always make sense, bb. *Grins* I have to fic (rather incoherently, but still!) to make any modicum of sense.

*SQUISHES*

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promethia_tenk June 25 2012, 10:20:09 UTC
Whuu? It was a great comment.

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easytheretyger June 24 2012, 23:48:03 UTC
Wait, his reward was fish-fingers and custard? ;)

Brilliant meta, as usual. I wuv you.

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redjaywrites June 25 2012, 00:10:13 UTC
That should be a meme.


... )

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elisi June 25 2012, 06:26:36 UTC
LOL.

Although an inability to appreciate fish custard could be a test for Having Gone Bad. What I mean is - Ten DOESN'T get fish fingers and custard. He has to be Eleven first. Ten wants indefinable, magical things, Eleven is happy with a little Scottish Girl and simple things. Which means he's the Doctor again, and the cure worked. :)

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easytheretyger June 25 2012, 20:32:12 UTC
:D

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redjaywrites June 24 2012, 23:56:33 UTC
Amazing. Will likely comment better when awake and exercised-out.

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redjaywrites June 25 2012, 00:01:50 UTC
Actually before I sleep, I do have one more comment. Two, actually. Ten has been grating on me, too, but I still like him from before he turned into... well, this. Excellent meta, as always. And since reading it, this line from a Johnny Cash song has been lodged in my head:

Go tell that long tongue liar
Go and tell that midnight rider
Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
- God's Gonna Cut You Down, Johnny Cash

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elisi June 25 2012, 06:28:44 UTC
Ooooh, nice. Thank you.

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sensiblecat June 25 2012, 10:50:13 UTC
Johnny Cash really had Ten's number:
Desperado, why don't you come to your senses ( ... )

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