The Day of the Doctor Meta: Story Layers

Dec 02, 2013 20:15

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hawkmoth December 3 2013, 00:44:26 UTC
Ack! LJ ate my comment.

First of all, brilliant as always. I was waiting for this like so many other people. I love your inclusion of River; thinking about her this way helps complete my personal understanding of the Moment.

I think yours is the first mention of the importance of the Marcus Aurelius qoute I've seen. Someone had a screencap up of Clara's writing on the board (to show her in the school) and it was focused on the words "no more" which of course resonated with the Warrior Doctor's ultimatum. But on my next viewings I concentrated to really hear the quote, and it gained so much more meaning.

And I'm so pleased you tied in to that wonderful Seven moment: I used it for inspiration for a ficlet: http://hawkmoth.livejournal.com/339944.html (which I titled "Unforeseeable Ways.")

Can't wait for more, and I know your meta for the Christmas Special is going to be heartwrenching.

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elisi December 3 2013, 21:32:05 UTC
Ack! LJ ate my comment.
It really has been playing up recently. I had to re-upload about half the images for this post because they just vanished.

First of all, brilliant as always. I was waiting for this like so many other people.
I might write more (mostly about 'the women') but this just all hang together.

I love your inclusion of River; thinking about her this way helps complete my personal understanding of the Moment.
Yay! There is always the underlying idea of 'all the women are woman' (and all the men are - quite literally - one man!), and I might have to play with that a little more.

I think yours is the first mention of the importance of the Marcus Aurelius qoute I've seen.
Oh, there's this beautiful review which uses his writings throughout. (S)he gets the timey-wimey wrong, but other than that it's pretty perfect. And all the quoting is brilliant.

And I'm so pleased you tied in to that wonderful Seven moment: I used it for inspiration for a ficlet: http://hawkmoth. ( ... )

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ever_neutral December 3 2013, 02:13:48 UTC
\o/ for all the appreciation of this episode on my flist! This is stunning stuff. I can add nothing but it was a treat to read.

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elisi December 3 2013, 21:32:51 UTC
Thank you! And it really was pretty much The Best Episode Ever. ♥

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owlsie December 3 2013, 09:43:15 UTC
>>This is *exactly* what Ten and Eleven do in The Day of the Doctor. They love and accept the War Doctor - stop running from what they did, stop denying it, and instead embrace it

Which I think they could not do without Clara and Rose doing it first. They basically all Care Bear Stare him into not blowing up Gallifrey, it's great.

>>Clara: What you’ve always done. Be a Doctor! ... You told be the name you chose was a promise. What was the promise?

I like how Clara talks to him like a student. ''Do you remember what we learned? Come on, you can do it.''

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promethia_tenk December 3 2013, 11:45:52 UTC
I like how Clara talks to him like a student. ''Do you remember what we learned? Come on, you can do it.''
Lol! She does. *snort*

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owlsie December 3 2013, 12:33:37 UTC
It's also an interesting contrast to River, who would probably call him useless and tell him to get over it

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promethia_tenk December 3 2013, 12:38:51 UTC
This is why there are 'one psychopath per TARDIS' rules.

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mengu December 3 2013, 10:04:19 UTC
The Library parallels, specifically, "what he did was give her a screwdriver", and River as the Moment caused small shrieking sounds.
Clara gets "I always know" as well.

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promethia_tenk December 3 2013, 11:43:51 UTC
Clara gets "I always know" as well.
This one struck me much more forcefully, given the very recent repetition in Name of the Doctor: 'River would know. River always knew.'

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elisi December 3 2013, 21:40:54 UTC
The Library parallels, specifically, "what he did was give her a screwdriver", and River as the Moment caused small shrieking sounds.
:D :D :D EVERYTHING ties back to the Library. It was pretty much Moffat's blueprint for how he was going to run the show I think. ♥

Clara gets "I always know" as well.
All the women are one woman...

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eaweek December 3 2013, 15:15:56 UTC
I am gobsmacked and have no words, beyond, this is just amazing. Amazing. You've pulled together so many threads it's just uncanny. I was kind of seeing this when I watched the 50th, but you've managed to articulate so many of my incoherent, unformed impressions. Thank you for getting inside my brain and putting everything into clear words (and images!).

I really wish Moff could read this. The special showed how much of a long game he's playing. I wish people would step back a bit from their snap judgments of him and look at the bigger picture of what he's doing.

Again, many many thanks for posting this.

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elisi December 3 2013, 21:46:05 UTC
I am gobsmacked and have no words, beyond, this is just amazing. Amazing.
*mutters incoherently* (By which I mean thank you.)

You've pulled together so many threads it's just uncanny. I was kind of seeing this when I watched the 50th, but you've managed to articulate so many of my incoherent, unformed impressions. Thank you for getting inside my brain and putting everything into clear words (and images!).
Oh I couldn't not! It was eating my head until I had it posted. And seriously, it was all just... there. Culling it and making it flow were the difficult parts.

I really wish Moff could read this. The special showed how much of a long game he's playing. I wish people would step back a bit from their snap judgments of him and look at the bigger picture of what he's doing.
People are idiots. Like someone, somewhere said. If they're not 'getting it' by now, they should just leave and come back when they next person takes over. They're never going to understand.

Again, many many thanks for posting this.Thank YOU for your lovely, ( ... )

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