DW 9.07 and 9.08. The Zygon Invasion and The Zygon Inversion

[elisi]

Meta! I am leaving out so much, but time is snatching at my heels. So this'll have to do. With thanks to promethia_tenk without whom I couldn't do this.

Also janie_aire wrote a fascinating post that you should go read: Genre Competition (Kill the Moon)... and Zygons

Comments

[purplefringe]

<333 Beautiful, as ever. (And oh god am I glad neither of these eps aired this weekend. You are right that it's easy to admire something like forgiveness in a story and so much harder to countenance it in real life.)

Not really the point of this essay, but I really like the way you phrased the bit about Ten's arrogance - 'He had to be right. About everything. Because if he was wrong, maybe he had been wrong about the Time War too…?' - that's something I've understood for a long time but never properly been able to articulate, so thank you for putting it into words so clearly!

One thing I have noticed, and very much enjoyed about this season so far, is the ongoing theme of Redemption. (Which is perhaps the same thing as Grace? That line 'I'm old enough to be your messiah' really put this at the forefront of my mind). Davros pretended to have turned over something of a new leaf, and the Doctor really wanted to believe him. Later we have Ashildr/Me, who is forgiven by the Doctor, redeems herself and goes on to find her own higher

[elisi]

<333 Beautiful, as ever.
<333

(And oh god am I glad neither of these eps aired this weekend. You are right that it's easy to admire something like forgiveness in a story and so much harder to countenance it in real life.)
IKR? Although the fact that it aired on the eve of Remembrance Sunday was something it took me like two days to notice...

Not really the point of this essay, but I really like the way you phrased the bit about Ten's arrogance - 'He had to be right. About everything. Because if he was wrong, maybe he had been wrong about the Time War too…?' - that's something I've understood for a long time but never properly been able to articulate, so thank you for putting it into words so clearly!
I owe that insight to a huge long discussion on doctorelevenOne thing I have noticed, and very much enjoyed about this season so far, is the ongoing theme of Redemption.
*nods* I wish I could have fitted Ashildr in, but OMG TIME! /o\

Later we have Ashildr/Me, who is forgiven by the Doctor, redeems herself and goes on to find her own higher

[ragnarok_08]

Whoa, this was very thought-out and well-written <3

[elisi]

Thank you! ♥

The show is SO RICH, I feel like I'm only unearthing a tiny corner. But even that corner is important. :)

[a_phoenixdragon]

This is beautiful...thank you...

[elisi]

My pleasure! Glad you liked it! :)

[hawkmoth]

Good thoughts!

My daughter is convinced the "Clara on Gallifrey" (pictured in your essay) will turn out to be very important in the episodes to come. We shall see.

[elisi]

Thank you!

(And it's good to see you - it feels like forever since we talked.)

Re. Gallifreyan Clara... I wonder too.

[watervole]

Thanks for an excellent post.

There was one tiny point that I loved that has nothing to do with any overall arc.

Katie and 'five rounds rapid'. I do love it when they remember the Brigadier. One of his classic lines "Chap with the wings, five rounds rapid"

[elisi]

Thank you. <3

And oh yes, Five Rounds Rapid. I think I cheered out loud! (I adore the Brig.)