Animal Experimentation

[emotional_dirth]

When I say animal experimentation, I talk about academic research/medical research. Not cosmetic quality assurance stuff.

Yes, no, maybe?

Please, don't go OMFG IT'S EVIL. Reasons.

Comments

[taitchild]

Yes.

Although! We as humans when we die have the option to offer our bodies up to medical/scientific research. This is of course after the fact we are dead.

In no right mind would the government allow a living person to be used for medical/scientific research that would ultimately result in death. So why then should we use another species to? The only difference between us and other species is that we have a developed brain with a deeper thought process. More or less we're a diluted species of ape.

[emotional_dirth]

The interesting thing is that (a) the amount of lab research animals used is thought to be WAY more than what is actually used. People think they go through hundreds of rats a week. No. That's not the case most of the time. If it was, I highly doubt the experiment would be allowed to continue (there are ethics boards, and both human and animals are REALLY intensively studied). (b) The animals are treated far better than most pets. They have to be; the animal societies can enter at /any time/ to do a surprise inspection. While I'm for animal experimentation, I have a few issues with it and I also refuse to give my own arguments for it, mainly because I'm trying to (pretentiously) engage in a pseudo debate. The problem with giving your body away to science/medicine, too, is that the most effective research has to be done on live subjects. The dead stuff doesn't help explain the causation, but it does help advance general knowledge and correlations

[jaggedsoul13]

I think animal testing is cruel

lordy, long message.

[emotional_dirth]

a) My lord, some of the testing goes farther than cruel. Hell, I personally believe some of the psych experiments of old are disgusting and vile. I get very uncomfortable hearing some of the experiments done in my biopsychology class, and feel kind of oddly about the glib way people talk about some of these experiments. Though not all testing is necessarily cruel, there are some that people would consider cruel

part two

[emotional_dirth]

f) "Good for chemo patients, but still" - This quote is kind of odd to me, because if it was good for chemo patients (who are in such a horrible position), then doesn't that make the experiment a success? To me, a successful experiment is one where the information can help us understand ourselves better, and/or help people who are in an unfortunate position. If we understand the mechanism that helps chemo patients with a reduced appetite, then that's great. How can we solve this problem? To me, if it helps, it's useful

[bluecadet_3]

hey, I, being god, say its okay. i created life, you guys can take it. i don't care.

[emotional_dirth]

This is an actual argument from the catholic religion, argued by st. thomas aquinas.

good on ya.