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Jan 17, 2005 11:04

dear martin luther king jr ( Read more... )

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emptyboxofyou January 18 2005, 18:23:55 UTC
umm ok so are you saying that we should still have slavery? bc the only way we stopped it was through government force. what about segregation? if the courts hasn't done anything there wouldn't have been any other steps. women's voting rights? abortion rights? religious freedom? to change the people so that our country is equal you have to use the government. the governement is there to procect the minority (be it race, religious, gender, socioeconomics). people don't just decided all of a sudden to let their preducices go, let someone else live just like they do. that's how shit happens. and people can THINK whatever they want in this country, they can BELIEVE whatever they choose but they can't ACT however they want. current civil rights movements want equality, just like they did thirty years ago, just like they did 80 years ago. just because you may not think something is right, doesn't mean you can impose it on others, sure, think what you want; but that doesn't mean that if you think something IS right that you should ( ... )

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iamamadonion January 18 2005, 19:51:13 UTC
i am specifically advocating the complete abolishment of slavery. the government has no right to hold business owners as slaves by making them pay whatever amount it has decided on. by what right, by what authority? a business should and must have complete discretion over its funds, or else it is owned by the state, no matter to what degree it is controlled. you are correct when you say that it is the governments responsibility to protect minorities. bear in mind, the smallest minority is the individual. the government is here to protect its individual citizens from physical violence and harm, not the prejudices of others (so long as those prejudices do not come to physical violence or coercion (such as slavery. the government stepped in, not to protect black people, but to protect individuals ( ... )

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emptyboxofyou January 18 2005, 21:29:07 UTC
oh but james, the government was not designed to protect indiviuals. i know, we wish it were, and i've argued many times that it should but american political thought tends towards the minority group. i wish the government gave a shit about the individual but the way it is, we can only work within groups for protection ( ... )

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iamamadonion January 19 2005, 07:31:47 UTC
the american government WAS designed to protect individuals. but you're right when you say that (current) american political thought tends towards the minority group. but there is no such thing as rights that a group has which an individual does not. i do not believe that minorities should receive a benefit when it comes to getting into college (the u of m case.) but businesses have the right to provide or refuse service to whomever they wish. also, education should be completely privatized, because when a semi-private business (a state university) provides a service to some and not to all, there is a conflict of interests ( ... )

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emptyboxofyou January 21 2005, 13:55:24 UTC
if you had my schedule it would. you should IM me, we haven't really talked in a while and just because i dissagree with points i find valid doesn't mean i think mine are invalid. i just think that it's an opinion, something that doesn't work for me but that doesn't mean i don't think it can work for someone else.

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iamamadonion January 21 2005, 15:56:41 UTC
all of my points specifically move towards babies being humans, so if they're valid and you recognize that, then you have to agree. they are not opinions, i have presented nothing but facts, whilst all you have said is "we aren't going to see eye to eye about it." while presenting nothing but the opinions "t's not fully human yet, it doesn't have a concience, it can't live without the mothers body or some machine, it's not a baby in my eyes." you fail to realize that personal opinions don't matter. facts matter. thats it. i will not let someone elses opinion sway me. if you can prove that a fetus is not a human, that would work.

i will IM you soon. please put me back on your friends list, we're both going to run into a lot of people that disagree with both of us, and we can't get angry at every single one of them.

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