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meekosan in emtb

Opinions on a Memo

Jun 20, 2008 16:43

I'm looking for people's opinions on something...mind you, someone already started the ball rolling on getting this rectified, but still want opinions nonetheless..

You walk into work and a memo stating the following is posted for BLS crews:

***ATTENTION***

As you may already be aware, you will not get a face-sheet for dialysis patients, or any other ( Read more... )

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As posted elsewhere docwoodstock June 22 2008, 00:40:46 UTC

1)IF this is truly a transport from Pont A to Point B, and occours often, then point B has ALL the information it needs. Extra paperwork is NOT required.
BUT, if it changes to a true EMS call & you transport elsewher --- htn you are missing information.

2) In my hometown (years ago in NY) we had several half-way houses for the mentally impaired. On EMS calls we always had 1 of 3 things from the home. Staff member with "the book", "the book", the needed pages from "the book". Notice I say EMS calls. They used their own vans for Dr visits.

........... Further thoughts

Think about "this" folks...
What is the "real" purpose of a PCR (Patient Care Report) ... it is to provide complete info and a diary of/for care. What 'you' need to care for the patient, what you did, and what point B needs for care.

Of course some of the info is used for billing & statistics.

Upon further review of the real reason, please read 1 again.

wolfwyndd June 23 2008, 12:59:24 UTC

You, obviously, don't take 911 calls do you? You know what you get when you pick a patient up at the door of his / her house? NOTHING. So what if you don't get a face sheet. You know how you get the patients information? You ASK him / her what their medical history is, what medications they are on, etc, etc, etc. Who needs a face sheet?

meekosan June 23 2008, 18:04:24 UTC

I do 911 as well. 911 is difficult and differnt but you still attempt to get this information, don't you? Your ERs must love you, when you walk in with a patient and they ask you their history and medications and you tell them, "I dunno, never asked/looked."

My issue is that this information is sitting right there, and until recently, was available to us until a few nurses threw a fit because they couldn't be bothered with making a copy.

Like someone else said, if the patient goes sour during transport, you're pretty much caught with your pants down. The BLS patients we pick up from home ALL have a list with the information ready for us. Hell, one has a binder with the information AND an updated DNR form inside the both covers.

anathelia June 25 2008, 00:14:13 UTC

yes but in 911 you can ask the patient what their medical history or ask to see their 'box-o-meds' and even though it may take the entire trip to find out all of the information. But if you have a patient that gets handed a bunch of meds every day and may or may not know his medical history. 911 and transports are quite a bit different in the ways they are run.