He was refering to God... but I forget which passage. Maybe just in general, that we know God but we don't really know what it means that He is God. He related this to ourselves and our reltaionships and said that we need to not just know that we are beloved children of God but we should know what that means too. The thesis of his message was to not be in relationships for what you can get out of them. I wish I had read and commented earlier becasue it's all foggy now, but I hope that gives you some sort of idea. I love you, Mel.
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