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ruggedo April 24 2008, 07:31:57 UTC
My first thought is its no ones business but the participant,so evaluating the reason is even more unacceptable as you shouldnt even be allowed to know it.

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erica057 April 24 2008, 14:01:06 UTC
Well...if someone truly believes that abortion is indistinct from murder, I can understand why they'd make it their business. However, if you wave the banner of pro-choice, I think that it's completely unreasonable to feel that you have the authority to decide whose choice is OK and whose isn't. Even if someone ONLY condones abortion in cases of rape, I believe that they surrender their rights to judge. We wouldn't say that it's okay to kill a toddler who is the product of rape, so if you believe that abortion = killing babies, that viewpoint should remain steadfast.

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ex_dottymoo556 April 24 2008, 15:12:43 UTC
This is probably going to read horribly but here goes ( ... )

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erica057 April 24 2008, 15:20:45 UTC
Personal ethics however matter a great deal and as long as you can justify how you feel and why you made the decision, then go ahead.

Oh, certainly. I'm discussing abortion strictly from a legal perspective, rather than a personal one.

Thank you for sharing your story :)

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ex_dottymoo556 April 24 2008, 15:29:26 UTC
The trouble is that the 'legal perspective' tends to lend itself to the idealists, rather than I guess, the realists.

From my point of view, and as I understand it in British law, you need to be able to justify the abortion and understand how you feel about it to be entitled to the abortion. As a result we tend not to have such an active pro-life vs pro-choice movement.

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brother_blaze April 24 2008, 21:23:38 UTC
I told Rosa I was going to stay out of this one, but I need to procrastinate on some stuff, and this is as good a way to do it as any ( ... )

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erica057 April 26 2008, 02:12:48 UTC
I get what you're saying, and you definitely bring up some good points. I certainly see a paralell between, say, killing in self-defense and aborting a fetus in a medical emergency where the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother. However, if someone is opposed to, say, abortion blithely used as a form of birth control, but is okay with it if i.e. the mother is 16 or the father is an asshole or something, then I do raise an eyebrow. My thinking is, if someone feels that abortion is morally wrong in a given set of circumstances, then doesn't that mean that they feel it is an unacceptable killing? And if that is the case, why condone abortion in instances where they'd condemn killing a newborn?

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