Intellectuals...cristyissuesMay 3 2006, 01:23:02 UTC
Its like the Charles Bukowski quote, "An intellectual is a man who says a simple thing in a difficult way, an artist is someone who says a difficult thing in a simple way." I just don't really care to much for Intellectuals its almost as if they feel superior to everyone else.
You know you've made it when people want to quote your writing. LOL I personally would advice against it like you said you never know the problems you could get into.
Bob Dylan... I think most people today would rather bang their heads against something than actually enjoy a true artist at his best.
Re: Intellectuals...eunuch_dreamsMay 3 2006, 21:02:59 UTC
Intellectual, noun: Having or showing intellect, especially to a high degree.
Bukowski was probably thinking of the academic critics who rejected his work, in favour to 'high-brow' writers (as opposed to good ones). He had also never heard Damien Hirst or Tracey Emin try to explain their art. They are somehow able to turn a tent or a cut-up animal into an artpiece simply just by saying what it 'represents'; I reckon this is why confidence tricksters aren't called 'con-'poets'' or 'con-'writers''.
I can understand your hatred of pretentious types, but this is like saying 'Rggghh! I hate people who read books!'
There should be a term for people who SAY they're intellectuals; then we could laugh at them instead.
Please do finish it, the description is so immersing by nature, and I simply have to know where the Mark Anthony reference is going with regards to their actions and relationship. I kept expecting a Cleopatra figure to be central to the story, but then when she didn't appear I was hooked.
intellectuals... againcristyissuesMay 4 2006, 02:46:43 UTC
While you make a good point in there being a difference between actual intellectuals and people who claim to be intellectuals, I have to remind you that we are from different societies and its seems that the definition for Intellectualism has changed, people who claim to be "Intellectuals" here have soiled the meaning and have given it such a bad name that its hard for my mind to process the word "intellectuals" as anything more than a "pretentious type".
But I also realize that just because I believe it to be a bad thing here, does not mean that real intellectuals are what I originally thought them to be. And who knows maybe Bukowski was referring to the academic critics. By the way Damien Hirst, I forget that people elsewhere may know about him, even though its very stupid of me seeing as he is a British artist. I may seen naive at times but you can't even begin to understand the people I am surrounded by.
Re: intellectuals... againeunuch_dreamsMay 4 2006, 03:34:36 UTC
Ah yes, California. It's weird, I often get people in chatsites telling me how if you don't have a sixpack or a D-cup in California people won't even listen to you (interestingly, Arnie has both). I'm glad I live in a place where more than half the population reads newspapers, which at least means people are thinking about stuff. There's even newspapers for people who aren't thinking about stuff, called tabloids. For example, we have a paper called 'The Sun', where on page 2 they're telling you paedophiles should be burned at the stake, and then on Page 3 they've got a sixteen year old model posing topless. Some editor must've seen that and had one of those 'Gah!' moments
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A great finish to a questionable beginningcristyissuesMay 5 2006, 01:39:56 UTC
LOl, so I get home after having another exhausting day at school and I go online and what do I happen to have but E-mails from livejournal, and look who it is its Jonah. I figure this should be interesting and sure enough you had me laughing in no time. "In two thousand years' time, Budhists will be chanting this mantra by his Holiness Jonah."You have just ended my day on such a good note! I hope your posting went well. And yes its true you need a six-pack or a D-cup but you can also be a plastic surgeon, people worship them. The thing is though I may not be a D-cup but at least my C-cup is real. And yes "Frasiers" here do buy collections to adorn there huge and empty houses, but at least there wife is reading, even if its just Tabloids such as STAR and INTOUCH. (Those are the only ones I know they are always on the news)
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You know you've made it when people want to quote your writing. LOL I personally would advice against it like you said you never know the problems you could get into.
Bob Dylan... I think most people today would rather bang their heads against something than actually enjoy a true artist at his best.
Truly Yours,
Cristi
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Bukowski was probably thinking of the academic critics who rejected his work, in favour to 'high-brow' writers (as opposed to good ones). He had also never heard Damien Hirst or Tracey Emin try to explain their art. They are somehow able to turn a tent or a cut-up animal into an artpiece simply just by saying what it 'represents'; I reckon this is why confidence tricksters aren't called 'con-'poets'' or 'con-'writers''.
I can understand your hatred of pretentious types, but this is like saying 'Rggghh! I hate people who read books!'
There should be a term for people who SAY they're intellectuals; then we could laugh at them instead.
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But well done for noticing anyway ...
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But I also realize that just because I believe it to be a bad thing here, does not mean that real intellectuals are what I originally thought them to be. And who knows maybe Bukowski was referring to the academic critics. By the way Damien Hirst, I forget that people elsewhere may know about him, even though its very stupid of me seeing as he is a British artist. I may seen naive at times but you can't even begin to understand the people I am surrounded by.
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And yes its true you need a six-pack or a D-cup but you can also be a plastic surgeon, people worship them. The thing is though I may not be a D-cup but at least my C-cup is real. And yes "Frasiers" here do buy collections to adorn there huge and empty houses, but at least there wife is reading, even if its just Tabloids such as STAR and INTOUCH. (Those are the only ones I know they are always on the news)
"twee", I'm using that.
Truly yours,
Cristi
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