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Dec 17, 2014 22:24

17. rosaxx50 prompted: Kate/Seth/Richie and why this worked for you.

I'm using this opportunity to revive THE WRONG!SHIP MEME OF COLD SWEATS AND TERROR. Yet again I have no idea which day to put this entry, but with no further ado:

23 | a couple trio you ship for the wrong reasons that fits too many of these criteria

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rosaxx50 December 18 2014, 02:37:23 UTC

I do think this is one of the ships where they're at their moral worst around one another. By worst I mean, care the least about anything.

1. I have been thinking about this the past couple of weeks/months, and you know, I don't think co-dependent siblings is my thing after all? But obvs Seth/Richie = most fascinating and sadly co-dependent who nevertheless end the series far apart, ~we have a sacred bond~ (said however ironically)

2. TBH I'm still stuck on the pool sequence. I like what Richie/Kate is in canon with the soft power muscles being stretched as you say, plus Kate actually connecting with Richie too on some level but mostly it's for a power/rebellion trip (early on) and then to get the hell out of dodge alive (later on), but I don't have ~shippy feelings for it.

3. Which makes it all the more ironic that I do have feelings for Kate/Seth, and they're the only pairing in the show that actually gives me shippy feelings (as opposed to fascination and/or pain). But like you said:

Is there any trope more bulletproof than ( ... )

ever_neutral December 18 2014, 13:09:58 UTC

A fair point but I have that day marked out for Angel/Darla. D:

1. BUT. HOW CAN YOU SAY THESE THINGS SO CALMLY WHILE USING A BORGIAS ICON? GET YOUR MIXED SIGNALS UNDER CONTROL.

2. Yeah, Richie/Kate is more an intellectual ship, not an emotional feelz one like the other two legs. I don't have a burning need to see it be more explored than it has been (and besides Richie's off with Santanico now), but all their interactions have been class, so it belongs here.

3. (lol, as far as I'm concerned fascination/pain are synonymous with "shippy feels" but we know what I'm like.) DON'T QUESTION IT. EMBRACE THE UNEXPECTED FEELS.

they are literally THE ONLY ONES LEFT.

HORROR SHOW SURVIVORS OTP. This has potential for some amazing codependence tbh, next season cannot come soon enough.

Except Freddie... but Freddie still has a family to go back to. His arc culminates in choosing his family over revenge.

*single manly tear*

rosaxx50 December 18 2014, 20:56:02 UTC

Maybe it's a co-dependent boys thing because I don't usually care about the boys enough?

I really ship Cesare/Lucrezia because it's... not that co-dependent though?I feel like want each other intensely, but I don't think they really need each other (so much as Cesare needs her safe), and I could see them happy living apart, as long as they frequently visit one another.

#3 "the pain" only applies to Carlos/Santanico though, and I don't really have ~feelings about them per say (except when they break up and I find the scenes themselves emotional for me), because away from watching canon they don't actually give me feelings so much as some intellectual glee?

I can't wait for s2 either wheeeeeere iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I imagine if we don't get an s2 though.

ever_neutral December 19 2014, 01:17:34 UTC

lol, let's not argue about the definition of codependence.

#3: Same, I ~appreciate Carlos/Santanico but I'm not frothing at the mouth for their interactions like I am other dynamics. Then again, for the "frothing at the mouth" part to happen I need to be able to see the development of the relationship, and Carlos/Santanico is all in the past.

I imagine if we don't get an s2 though.

R u joking. Don't come to my bar with these sorts of comments.

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goldenusagi December 18 2014, 22:59:58 UTC

There is something strangely compelling about all of them... So very wrong in every way.

ever_neutral December 19 2014, 01:18:13 UTC

YOU GO HERE TOO? I simply did not know. Carry on.

goldenusagi December 19 2014, 09:49:56 UTC

I liked when Richie threw knives at her.

ever_neutral December 19 2014, 13:12:35 UTC

You have a way of getting right to the heart of the matter.

xx_pinkstar December 20 2014, 03:54:43 UTC

everything is so beautiful and well bone structured

ever_neutral December 20 2014, 12:36:59 UTC

indeed indeed, my friend.

Part 1 (the most embarrassing chain of comments) scorpiod1 December 20 2014, 05:06:03 UTC

bless you and bless this post tbh

It's become mainstream in this day and age to ship the two outlaw brothers together BUT WHAT CAN I SAY, I'M A MAINSTREAM BITCH

HIGH FIVES MAINSTREAM BITCHES TOGETHER. Sometimes I feel embarrassed by how into Seth/Richie I am because like...oh, look, white guy slash, what else is new BUT I JUST FEEL SO MANY THINGS, OUTLAW AMORAL BROS ARE MY EVERYTHING /o\ #in all fairness, I've shipped it since the film, so when I heard there was going to be a show about it, I was just "oh no I'm going to ship it even harder" and welp, I did.

turned the other cheek as Richie crosses lines that (supposedly) disgust him.SUPPOSEDLY XDDD that's what kills me, man, like, he was angry about Monica's death for about...a minute? Before he went to hugging him and stroking his hair and telling him they will all be okay. His main concern afterwards was RICHIE DON'T GET US CAUGHT. Seth Gecko has problems. Meanwhile at least when Santanico's influence wore off, Richie expressed guilt for killing her, while Seth...never really ( ... )

Part 2 scorpiod1 December 20 2014, 05:08:06 UTC

I am sorta of into Kate/Richie. I forget that I'm into it because fandom is trying to kill the ship for me and make it some weird romanticized nonsense so I start just avoiding edits and graphics for the on tumblr, but all I want is push-pull, Stockholm syndrome crush weirdness. But lol, I feel you on how it's was a squick, all the reasons you listed do still squick me to an extent, like I can't actually handle their kiss scene without feeling VERY UNCOMFORTABLE (the actors felt iffy too, reportedly) so Idk I straddle a weird I'M UNCOMFORTABLE BUT FASCINATED line for this ship ( ... )

Part 3 scorpiod1 December 20 2014, 05:10:15 UTC

So okay, full disclaimer, I am really not into Seth/Kate as a ship? /o\ (I am not sure if you're aware of this or not) It's mainly because from venturing into the tags and reading the fic, everyone or most of everyone sees and writes them as a standard happily ever after ship the sweeps under the rug the kidnapping and all the shit Seth's done and tries to make it a nice ship. Idk I have a lot of issues with the overall fandom, and I think if you took all that away, I still wouldn't be into the ship because tbh it hits some personal squicks, but I wouldn't dislike it, I just wouldn't be my thing ( ... )

Part 4 LAST ONE I PROMISE scorpiod1 December 20 2014, 05:10:51 UTC

They're the leftovers: the preacher's daughter whose faith has been obliterated, and the professional thief who doesn't believe in anything. It actually makes sense that after everything they'd choose to stick together, because the rest of the world no longer makes sense to either of them.Bless this sentence. THE WORLD NO LONGER MAKES SENSE /o\ Though I think they both come at this from different angles? I think like, in terms of thinking of them as the leftover ones that no one wants, that's important, but I see a big fundamental difference between them in what they've lost, which is--Seth tried to go with his brother at the end and had to be pushed away, while Kate is the one who explicitly pushed her brother away (for like, perfectly understandable reasons, even if they make me sad but still. I suppose you can argue that Kate lost her brother when he became a culebra, but Seth doesn't really seem to feel that way about Richie--initial bad reaction aside--and I don't think show is saying this). So while they've both gone through the ( ... )

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