For the Russian propaganda puppets

Jun 06, 2014 09:41

I got my first Russian propaganda monger posting some BS in my journal because of comments I made in other communities ( Read more... )

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e2pii1 December 25 2014, 06:32:31 UTC
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evilnel December 25 2014, 16:12:08 UTC
I don't really think the situations are that comparable. For one thing, Russian minority or not, Russia has no right to "send and support troops" there. Ukraine is an independent nation, and you're forgetting to mention that the reason this conflict started was because Ukraine dared to overthrow Putin's puppet Yanukovych. He was happy with Yanukovych robbing the nation blind and joining the Eurasian Union, but when the people revolted against what is clearly not in the best interest for Ukraine, then Putin got involved. This was an internal issue to begin with and Putin should not have been buying politicians or having anything to do with it. Putin is just afraid of losing his sphere of influence. Once Russia invaded, what was Ukraine supposed to do, simply let a large chunk of the eastern population (who are by no means unilaterally supportive of Putin) be absorbed into the Russian Federation? Do you think that Russia was wrong in suppressing the situation in Chechnya ( ... )

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e2pii1 December 26 2014, 17:45:30 UTC
The situations are quite comparable, as we will see ( ... )

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poslushnik December 27 2014, 03:34:10 UTC
There are several major differences.

- For several last years Ukraine was ruled by the prorussian president with prorussian majority in parliament. Its unimaginable that israel was ruled by an arab prime minister with arab majority in the parliament.

- Unlike in Israel, no significant violations of russian populations rights was recorded, and not from the lack of trying on the side of russian propaganda machine.

- Again despite what russian propaganda claims, conflict in Donbas is not along ethnic or language lines. A large part of pro ukrainian forces, especially the volunteer batalions, have russion as their primary or only language. In Israel the the conflict falls along ethnic lines.

You have been polite so far, but your failure to consider those differences yourself to me signals that you are either not informed or biased. I personally have little interest in any further argument, and post this here mainly as a message to any accidental uninformed reader who may stop by.

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